Restoration Progress On My 1955 Greenie

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:08 pm

mickyd wrote:Is that spring steel on the back of the cover? Looks quite thick. Also, is it symetrical to the centerline of the cover. Note sure due to the angle the photo was taken at. Do you need to use a screwdriver to put it on by flexing the lower end of it after inserting the upper end into the headstock?

YES it is about 1/32" thick spring steel(stiff). The end is about even with the bottom od, and 1/4" beyond the top od. It is swaged onto the medalliion in a groove in the center.

The intent is to allow over insertion at the top and then slip the bottom in and down.

The two hemispherical flat areas at the top and bottom are a good place to locate 'screws' if you decide to go that route.

mickyd · Post by **mickyd** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:06 pm

JPG40504 wrote:The two hemispherical flat areas.............

"hemispherical flat area" 'ey. So your saying a "curved flat"? Is that like a definate possibility, or, once again.

mickyd · Post by **mickyd** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:22 pm

JPG40504 wrote:YES it is about 1/32" thick spring steel(stiff). The end is about even with the bottom od, and 1/4" beyond the top od. It is swaged onto the medalliion in a groove in the center.

The intent is to allow over insertion at the top and then slip the bottom in and down.

The two hemispherical flat areas at the top and bottom are a good place to locate 'screws' if you decide to go that route.

Could I possibly get a profile view of the medallion retainer?

Do you think that spring stock is an original Greenie retaining method or does a Greenie owner need to verify? (you know, that insane originality thing I have going on!!)

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:17 pm

mickyd wrote:Could I possibly get a profile view of the medallion retainer?

Do you think that spring stock is an original Greenie retaining method or does a Greenie owner need to verify? (you know, that insane originality thing I have going on!!)

Since your 'hole' looks the same as Goldie vintage, I feel sure the Medallion retention is the same.

[ATTACH]4306[/ATTACH]
The 'profile' requested.

[ATTACH]4307[/ATTACH]
Same flipped.

[ATTACH]4308[/ATTACH]
See the 'semi-circular' shapes at top & bottom! [A FLAT hemisphere IS a semi-circle:D ]

Originality thing is NOT insane!!!

Obsessive maybe.

mickyd · Post by **mickyd** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:27 pm

[quote="JPG40504"]Since your 'hole' looks the same as Goldie vintage, I feel sure the Medallion retention is the same.

[ATTACH]4306[/ATTACH]
The 'profile' requested.

[ATTACH]4307[/ATTACH]
Same flipped.

[ATTACH]4308[/ATTACH]
See the 'semi-circular' shapes at top & bottom! [A FLAT hemisphere IS a semi-circle:D ]

Originality thing is NOT insane!!!

Obsessive maybe.]

EXCELLENT shots jpg. I can easily make this.

Did you say that the usability of this design is a pain in the neck?

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:56 pm

mickyd wrote:EXCELLENT shots jpg. I can easily make this.

Did you say that the usability of this design is a pain in the neck?

I said PITA! Neck does not start with an A! It is troublesome to snap in and out. Since that is a seldom done task(unless you use it a lot and lubricate every 10 hrs as recommended:rolleyes: ) it can be tolerated. You may need liquid nails or jbweld to affix spring to back of medallion. It must be really secure since the force of removing it puts a LOT of strain on the spring/medallion joint.

mickyd · Post by **mickyd** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:21 pm

JPG40504 wrote:YES it is about 1/32" thick spring steel(stiff). The end is about even with the bottom od, and 1/4" beyond the top od. It is swaged onto the medalliion in a groove in the center.

The intent is to allow over insertion at the top and then slip the bottom in and down.

The two hemispherical flat areas at the top and bottom are a good place to locate 'screws' if you decide to go that route.

The back of my medallion isn't swaged like the back of yours shown in your post 243. Here's how mine looks.

[ATTACH]4312[/ATTACH]

So, I wonder how mine was ever attached. What do you think?

I need some other Greenie owners to look at theirs.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:29 pm

mickyd wrote:The back of my medallion isn't swaged like the back of yours shown in your post 243. Here's how mine looks.

[ATTACH]4312[/ATTACH]

So, I wonder how mine was ever attached. What do you think?

I need some other Greenie owners to look at theirs.

Nope no swaging marks. I DO notice marks on the posts(tinnerman nuts?). That would mean to remove it requires access from INSIDE(drop motor etc.). Might explain WHY it was NOT attached.

a1gutterman · Post by **a1gutterman** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:55 am

JPG40504 wrote:...BTW the saw blade is what happens when you leave a saw blade in evaporust and air too long. It seems to have acquired a nice black oxide finish??????

The other saw blade does knot look all that great either!!!

a1gutterman · Post by **a1gutterman** » Fri May 01, 2009 2:05 am

Mike,

I do KNOT have a Greenie. The following is speculation and might easily be disproved: Due to the lack of swaging marks and the marks that ARE on the two posts, could this logo have come with a SS that DID KNOT have an access hole? Or, could your SS have had the access hole drilled and the previous owner had knot figured out how to re-hang the logo? Just a thought.

edit: On second thought, after reviewing the picure you showed us, that looks like a factory hole, still...