Shopsmith Mark V11????

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[robinson46176]

I walked down to the shop while ago and did a little comparing of the Mark VII to the others.
The basic Mark V's table is about 18 1/4"x14"
The Mark VII table is about 21"x14"
The Mark V 510 table is about 22"x17 1/2"
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The "L" shaped Mark VII extension will fit in the ends like any SS extension table but it will also slide sidewise into the main table on the right side. Set up tight to the main table it makes it about 19 3/4" wide and tilts with the main table. Slid out to maximum width it is about 27" wide and still tilts with the main table. I have 3 Mark VII extension tables. One for each end and one to put on the main table.
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The Mark VII main table will tilt both right and left a full 90 degrees and has locks on both front and rear trunnions. It also has a second blade slot at the left edge. No insert, just a slot.
The basic Mark V table has about 3 3/4" of table in front of the saw blade insert.
The Mark VII has about 6 1/2" in front of the blade insert.
The Mark V 510 has about 6" in front of the blade insert.
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The Mark VII has a rod on the carriage that passes through the headstock and locks the table/carriage in 3 different settings from the headstock. There is a fine adjustment for that.
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The Mark VII has a built in dust collector blower (runs off of the back of the motor) and the "box" underneath holds the dust bag.
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The motor is reversible so you can run stuff like shaper cutters either direction.
The bed/way tube assembly will tip either direction and you can operate the drill press up if you want. Its primary use is for using the SS as a conventional shaper with the shaft coming up form underneath of the table (since the table will tilt 90 degrees both directions).
The headstock as someone said is moved up and down (or back and forth) with a crank/lock lever.
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Stuff like the lathe tool rest and tail stock will interchange with Mark V's etc. SPT's will fit fine and the Mark V extension tables would fit for basic support but due to the extra front table length the fence will not fit.
The Mark VII main table will drop into the basic Mark V carriage but only backward since the teeth are on the opposite side of the post. I have no idea what it would take to convert one. I didn't have time to study that.
The complete Mark VII carriage and table assemblies can be moved from it to the either the Basic Mark V or the Mark V 510 and the others will move to the Mark VII but only as complete sets. Oh, yeah, the Mark VII fence is all together different too.
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It occurs to me that if you could lay your hands on a Mark VII carriage, main table and extension table that it could be considered a nice table upgrade.
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I'm sure I have missed a lot but those are the main differences. If you can cure the melting speed cam problem the brittle breaking feed rack is not all that important and the Mark VII is a great machine.

[mbcabinetmaker]

It was actually the Avatar that I was talking about. I figured it out but when I shrink the image I wanted to use down to 100x100 it is just a blur. I'll work on a new picture soon.

Mark

[mbcabinetmaker]

And thanks to all! This sounds interesting. Francis have you had problems with your speed control?

Mark

[robinson46176]

And thanks to all! This sounds interesting. Francis have you had problems with your speed control?
Mark

No I have not but then again I have not used the Mark VII a lot. I originally bought it more as a collectors item but have become impressed with many of its features and the thinking that went into it.
The only weak spot on the speed control is the metal wrapped plastic cam out on the end of a plastic stick. It should be easy to redesign. It is just a simple progressive cam, not rocket science. It just holds a plunger in at different levels based on where you set it. I think with an all metal cam assembly it would be better (more trouble free) than the Mark V speed control. Someone was producing cast aluminum cams at one time but I don't know if they are still around.

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Francis: From your comments regarding the brittle rack, can I conclude it works just fine(locks and slides) without rack and cranking?

[robinson46176]

Francis: From your comments regarding the brittle rack, can I conclude it works just fine(locks and slides) without rack and cranking?

Yes, it will slide and lock fine without the rack gear. I suspect that those that use drill press mode a lot would quickly grow to appreciate the crank head adjustment a lot on one with a good rack gear. It would seem that it would also serve well with the bed/way section pivoted to the left side which puts the headstock down near the floor.
None of the three Mark VII's I bought had a good rack gear and I have never used one that had a good one so I can't say exactly how well they worked. I have enough of the rack gear on the one I use to move the headstock a short distance and the concept seems fine.
One of the Mark VII's I have has a Mark V headstock and carriage on it (my Frankensmith) and they just slip right on as on a Mark V, as long as the rack gear and its rivets are removed.
The third is an organ donor. I intend to install a Mark VII carriage back on the Franken since I got a good table with the parts unit. I haven't bothered so far since the Franken is pretty much a dedicated lathe. Even with the Mark V headstock (a greenie/Gilmer) it can be tilted to the left and used like a shaper but lacks the reversing ability. It can only work as an up from below shaper with the Mark VII table.
One small downside note on the Mark VII is that when up on the wheels it seems a tiny bit less stable than the Mark V and maybe so when down on the floor. Not a lot but perceivable. One of mine has casters that lower like the Mark V by stepping on a control like on the Mark V. The other has a caster set that you use by raising one end and swinging the pair for that end from up on the frame to under the frame. Both work fine.

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Yes, it will slide and lock fine without the rack gear. I suspect that those that use drill press mode a lot would quickly grow to appreciate the crank head adjustment a lot on one with a good rack gear. It would seem that it would also serve well with the bed/way section pivoted to the left side which puts the headstock down near the floor.
None of the three Mark VII's I bought had a good rack gear and I have never used one that had a good one so I can't say exactly how well they worked. I have enough of the rack gear on the one I use to move the headstock a short distance and the concept seems fine.
One of the Mark VII's I have has a Mark V headstock and carriage on it (my Frankensmith) and they just slip right on as on a Mark V, as long as the rack gear and its rivets are removed.
The third is an organ donor. I intend to install a Mark VII carriage back on the Franken since I got a good table with the parts unit. I haven't bothered so far since the Franken is pretty much a dedicated lathe. Even with the Mark V headstock (a greenie/Gilmer) it can be tilted to the left and used like a shaper but lacks the reversing ability. It can only work as an up from below shaper with the Mark VII table.
One small downside note on the Mark VII is that when up on the wheels it seems a tiny bit less stable than the Mark V and maybe so when down on the floor. Not a lot but perceivable. One of mine has casters that lower like the Mark V by stepping on a control like on the Mark V. The other has a caster set that you use by raising one end and swinging the pair for that end from up on the frame to under the frame. Both work fine.

Thanks! Very enlightening!:)

[mickyd]

It was actually the Avatar that I was talking about. I figured it out but when I shrink the image I wanted to use down to 100x100 it is just a blur. I'll work on a new picture soon.

Mark

Hey mbcabinetmaker....I noticed your replies to posts don't include the previous conversation in the white quote box as you see in this post above. If your not aware how to do this, it's done by first locating the post that you are going to reply to and instead of clicking on the "Quick reply" at that post, click on the "Quote" button. That way there, it will show the message your replying to directly above your posting, like you see in this one. Check it out.

[mbcabinetmaker]

Hey mbcabinetmaker....I noticed your replies to posts don't include the previous conversation in the white quote box as you see in this post above. If your not aware how to do this, it's done by first locating the post that you are going to reply to and instead of clicking on the "Quick reply" at that post, click on the "Quote" button. That way there, it will show the message your replying to directly above your posting, like you see in this one. Check it out.

Cool. Thanks again Mike!