Table Saw Blade Q for a complete n00b

Forum for people who are new to woodworking. Feel free to ask questions or contribute.

Moderator: admin

User avatar
discordanian
Gold Member
Posts: 33
Joined: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:50 am
Location: St. Louis
Contact:

Table Saw Blade Q for a complete n00b

Post by discordanian »

Just got a Mark V (510). I'm really excited to get started. I'm still clearing out space. I had an old tablesaw that gave up the ghost and since I'm in a tiny shop, it seemed that the shopsmith was a good way to go.

At any rate, I'm a tad confused on the table saw blades. I've got a dozen from my previous table saw. I'm to understand that I need to buy adapters to get these to work on the SS, right? So I just bought a couple off of ebay.

Here is the Q (assuming I didn't already do something stupid): I've got a dado blade set. Is this just a different adapter? http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/ms_molderdadoarbor.htm I can't use these other adapters for a dado blade? If I bought this Amana dado set from SS directly, do I still need an adapter? http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/ms_carbidedadostackedset.htm.


I know that these are basic questions, but I appreciate any help on this.
jimthej
Gold Member
Posts: 307
Joined: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:35 pm
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Contact:

Saw blade adapters

Post by jimthej »

The adapters for table saw blades, while they have a 5/8 shaft, have a very limited grip range, not suitable for dado blades. They are designed that way to allow lots of clearance for dust collection and to allow a large stabilizer area to reduce blade vibration and noise.
The dado adapters have about a 2 inch screw shaft length to accommodate the grip washers and nut as well as about an inch of dado.
Jim in Bakersfield:D
User avatar
a1gutterman
Platinum Member
Posts: 3653
Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:45 am
Location: "close to" Seattle

Post by a1gutterman »

In addition to what Jim posted, you can only use the 5/8" and 1-1/4" saw arbors that are meant for the 505/510/520 table systems if you have a 510. Be careful to knot buy the 5/8" or 1-1/4" saw arbor that are for the 500. The arbor intended for the dado set, will fit with all Mark V's. And, finally, this dado arbor does knot come with the Amana dado set; you still will have to buy it seperately.
Tim

Buying US made products will help keep YOUR job or retirement funds safer.
keakap
Platinum Member
Posts: 1331
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:09 pm
Location: Kailua, Hawaii

Post by keakap »

[quote="gutterman"] The arbor intended for the dado set, will fit with all Mark V's. And, finally, this dado arbor does knot come with the Amana dado set]

Two more cents:
An oddity-- the arbor said to be for Dado blade use (505506) was once shipped as a "Universal" use arbor, but it came with a 5/8" spacer and 3/16" washers, rather than the 3/4" spacer and washers listed with the "new" Dado arbor. It's the one I've been using for years with my Forest blade and plate stabilizer.
Oddly enough, the Dado arbor now says not for regular blade use

I have no idea why.
charlese
Platinum Member
Posts: 7501
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:46 pm
Location: Lancaster, CA

Post by charlese »

Hi discordian! Since you had a number of questions about arbors - - Here's a way to avoid any additional mistakes.

Phone Shopsmith - 1-800-543-7586. You'll likely have to wait 15 minutes or so for one of their consultants to answer. Don't be put off if a female answers, they are VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE!

Ask all of your questions, the folks at Shopsmith are very helpful and will direct you to the best way to solve your problems.

There are several folks on the Forum from the St. Louis area. Maybe you can contact some local help through the Forum.
Octogenarian's have an earned right to be a curmudgeon.
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
User avatar
dusty
Platinum Member
Posts: 21481
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona

Post by dusty »

keakap wrote:Two more cents:
An oddity-- the arbor said to be for Dado blade use (505506) was once shipped as a "Universal" use arbor, but it came with a 5/8" spacer and 3/16" washers, rather than the 3/4" spacer and washers listed with the "new" Dado arbor. It's the one I've been using for years with my Forest blade and plate stabilizer.
Oddly enough, the Dado arbor now says not for regular blade use

I have no idea why.


It seems as though there is a need for a new thread about arbors and their use.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
keakap
Platinum Member
Posts: 1331
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:09 pm
Location: Kailua, Hawaii

Post by keakap »

dusty wrote:It seems as though there is a need for a new thread about arbors and their use.

Might be.

I ordered the dado blade set and the arbor specified even though I have two "Universal" arbors P/n 505506 (one for my Forest blade +stabilizer, one for the Vermont/American wobbler- or should I say gobbler).
The same p/n now describes the arbor set as having a 3/4 spacer, and mine have 5/8, so I'll do the right thing and make a dado set to specs. Besides, I can always use another arbor.
But in investigating the ones I have I noticed an odd thing: the two 505506's have slightly different shapes. One has a 1" diam body and the other's body is
1-1/4".
My SS blades are mounted on the 555130 arbors, of course, and then I noticed there's one arbor I am missing-- the 555608-- which is the 510/520 single blade 5/8 unit. Have no use for it.

By the way, I still have my old 1-1/4 505511 500 arbor, if anybody needs or wants one (for $postage).
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35457
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Post by JPG »

keakap wrote:Might be.

I ordered the dado blade set and the arbor specified even though I have two "Universal" arbors P/n 505506 (one for my Forest blade +stabilizer, one for the Vermont/American wobbler- or should I say gobbler).
The same p/n now describes the arbor set as having a 3/4 spacer, and mine have 5/8, so I'll do the right thing and make a dado set to specs. Besides, I can always use another arbor.
But in investigating the ones I have I noticed an odd thing: the two 505506's have slightly different shapes. One has a 1" diam body and the other's body is
1-1/4".
My SS blades are mounted on the 555130 arbors, of course, and then I noticed there's one arbor I am missing-- the 555608-- which is the 510/520 single blade 5/8 unit. Have no use for it.

By the way, I still have my old 1-1/4 505511 500 arbor, if anybody needs or wants one (for $postage).
Nor will you UNLESS you get a 'single' blade with a5/8" arbor hole.

Am sending you a PM re 505511
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
discordanian
Gold Member
Posts: 33
Joined: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:50 am
Location: St. Louis
Contact:

Post by discordanian »

My saw blades all have 5/8" holes. Is that the norm for a contractor saw? I've been using this on a 1960 craftsman for years.

I really only use a few blades. I can't live without my plywood blade. And right now, my dado is out in the cold until I get the right SS arbor for it. I know I can buy it online at SS. I was hoping it was cheaper on ebay, but the truth is that it sells for about the same as list price.
User avatar
a1gutterman
Platinum Member
Posts: 3653
Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:45 am
Location: "close to" Seattle

Post by a1gutterman »

discordanian wrote:My saw blades all have 5/8" holes. Is that the norm for a contractor saw? I've been using this on a 1960 craftsman for years.

I really only use a few blades. I can't live without my plywood blade. And right now, my dado is out in the cold until I get the right SS arbor for it. I know I can buy it online at SS. I was hoping it was cheaper on ebay, but the truth is that it sells for about the same as list price.
5/8" is pretty standard. It is an oddity, but there are some things, that are available directly from SS, that are more expensive on e-bay then new from SS. Seems like there are people out there that do knot bother to check things out...
Tim

Buying US made products will help keep YOUR job or retirement funds safer.
Post Reply