Freezing up

Forum for Maintenance and Repair topics. Feel free to ask questions or contribute.

Moderator: admin

bphoto
Silver Member
Posts: 9
Joined: Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:02 am
Location: Houston, Texas

Freezing up

Post by bphoto »

Just got a Shop Smith given to me It's about 30 years old but was only used a few times and has been sitting for 25 years. With the V belt off the motor runs and everything seems to move very freely BUT when I put the belt on it freezes up. Can't figture it out

Bphoto:(
User avatar
beeg
Platinum Member
Posts: 4790
Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:33 pm
Location: St. Louis,Mo.

Post by beeg »

Did ya clean it up and lube it?
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
.
.

Bob
bphoto
Silver Member
Posts: 9
Joined: Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:02 am
Location: Houston, Texas

freeze

Post by bphoto »

yes but I'm realy takeing it all apart now and will clean and lube it real good
User avatar
mikelst
Gold Member
Posts: 345
Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:14 pm
Location: Rowlett, TX
Contact:

Post by mikelst »

If you fill an your location on your profile page there might be a 'neighbor' woh could help you out.

Check the buying an old shopsmith sawdust session.

http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... _Index.htm

This and the couple that follow are great resources on getting an older machine back in shape and running.
Mike......... Rowlett, Texas, near Dallas
86 MK V 500/520. 59 MK 5 Greenie Shorty. SS Jointer, SS Planer,
SS Bandsaw, SS Lathe duplicator, SS Belt Sander,SS Molder & Shaper,
SS Tenon master jig, SS Mortising kit, SS 2 1/4' Drum Sanders, Ringmaster, DC3300....
bphoto
Silver Member
Posts: 9
Joined: Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:02 am
Location: Houston, Texas

freeze

Post by bphoto »

Houston Texas
User avatar
wa2crk
Platinum Member
Posts: 3080
Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:37 am
Location: Leesburg, Fl

Post by wa2crk »

Hi;
Can you turn the main output spindle easily without the motor running?
When you say bog down I take that to mean that the machine is slowing down as you use it.
Is the speed control staying in the position that you put it in or is it moving as the machine runs?
The machine's main spindle should turn with almost no drag when the motor belt is removed.
Bill
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Post by JPG »

[quote="wa2crk"]Hi]
He said 'freezes' not 'bogs'. I took it to mean it 'locked' up(quit turning with NO load).

That is why I have not previously responded. I could not visualize it locking up with no load if it was free by hand(motor and internals/output shaft).

Perhaps we need common understand/vocabulatory!


Houston, We have a problem! Please redescribe the 'problem'. Does everything turn freely by hand(motor,output shaft) with the motor belt removed. With the belt on, does anything turn or try to turn when the power switch is flipped to 'on'? With the belt on does the output shaft turn by hand(with a slight additional force required than without the belt)?

Does it start up then stop turning? Does it slow down when loaded? Does it stop when loaded?
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
bphoto
Silver Member
Posts: 9
Joined: Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:02 am
Location: Houston, Texas

Freeze

Post by bphoto »

Yes with out the belt on every thing turns free!! But put the belt on and the motor freezes and blows the breaker. But I have taken the hole head a part and am cleaning and lubeing everything and we'll see what happens when it's all back together.
User avatar
mikelst
Gold Member
Posts: 345
Joined: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:14 pm
Location: Rowlett, TX
Contact:

Post by mikelst »

That Sounds Like an excellent place to start. Keep us posted. and BTW we like pictures, they are shiny:D
Mike......... Rowlett, Texas, near Dallas
86 MK V 500/520. 59 MK 5 Greenie Shorty. SS Jointer, SS Planer,
SS Bandsaw, SS Lathe duplicator, SS Belt Sander,SS Molder & Shaper,
SS Tenon master jig, SS Mortising kit, SS 2 1/4' Drum Sanders, Ringmaster, DC3300....
iclark
Platinum Member
Posts: 630
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:45 pm
Location: Hampton VA

Post by iclark »

I have seen discussions here of SS freezing because the belt gets stuck in the sheaves during maintenance or for some other reason.

if it freezes again when you re-assemble it, you might try mounting the sanding disk and trying to turn it by hand (with the SS unplugged). with the belt cover off, you ought to be able to tell what is binding.

Ivan
Mark V (84) w/ jigsaw, belt sander, strip sander
ER10 awaiting restoration
Post Reply