Freezing up
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Freezing up
Just got a Shop Smith given to me It's about 30 years old but was only used a few times and has been sitting for 25 years. With the V belt off the motor runs and everything seems to move very freely BUT when I put the belt on it freezes up. Can't figture it out
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If you fill an your location on your profile page there might be a 'neighbor' woh could help you out.
Check the buying an old shopsmith sawdust session.
http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... _Index.htm
This and the couple that follow are great resources on getting an older machine back in shape and running.
Check the buying an old shopsmith sawdust session.
http://www.shopsmithacademy.com/SS_Arch ... _Index.htm
This and the couple that follow are great resources on getting an older machine back in shape and running.
Mike......... Rowlett, Texas, near Dallas
86 MK V 500/520. 59 MK 5 Greenie Shorty. SS Jointer, SS Planer,
SS Bandsaw, SS Lathe duplicator, SS Belt Sander,SS Molder & Shaper,
SS Tenon master jig, SS Mortising kit, SS 2 1/4' Drum Sanders, Ringmaster, DC3300....
86 MK V 500/520. 59 MK 5 Greenie Shorty. SS Jointer, SS Planer,
SS Bandsaw, SS Lathe duplicator, SS Belt Sander,SS Molder & Shaper,
SS Tenon master jig, SS Mortising kit, SS 2 1/4' Drum Sanders, Ringmaster, DC3300....
Hi;
Can you turn the main output spindle easily without the motor running?
When you say bog down I take that to mean that the machine is slowing down as you use it.
Is the speed control staying in the position that you put it in or is it moving as the machine runs?
The machine's main spindle should turn with almost no drag when the motor belt is removed.
Bill
Can you turn the main output spindle easily without the motor running?
When you say bog down I take that to mean that the machine is slowing down as you use it.
Is the speed control staying in the position that you put it in or is it moving as the machine runs?
The machine's main spindle should turn with almost no drag when the motor belt is removed.
Bill
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He said 'freezes' not 'bogs'. I took it to mean it 'locked' up(quit turning with NO load).
That is why I have not previously responded. I could not visualize it locking up with no load if it was free by hand(motor and internals/output shaft).
Perhaps we need common understand/vocabulatory!
Houston, We have a problem! Please redescribe the 'problem'. Does everything turn freely by hand(motor,output shaft) with the motor belt removed. With the belt on, does anything turn or try to turn when the power switch is flipped to 'on'? With the belt on does the output shaft turn by hand(with a slight additional force required than without the belt)?
Does it start up then stop turning? Does it slow down when loaded? Does it stop when loaded?
He said 'freezes' not 'bogs'. I took it to mean it 'locked' up(quit turning with NO load).
That is why I have not previously responded. I could not visualize it locking up with no load if it was free by hand(motor and internals/output shaft).
Perhaps we need common understand/vocabulatory!
Houston, We have a problem! Please redescribe the 'problem'. Does everything turn freely by hand(motor,output shaft) with the motor belt removed. With the belt on, does anything turn or try to turn when the power switch is flipped to 'on'? With the belt on does the output shaft turn by hand(with a slight additional force required than without the belt)?
Does it start up then stop turning? Does it slow down when loaded? Does it stop when loaded?
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Freeze
Yes with out the belt on every thing turns free!! But put the belt on and the motor freezes and blows the breaker. But I have taken the hole head a part and am cleaning and lubeing everything and we'll see what happens when it's all back together.
That Sounds Like an excellent place to start. Keep us posted. and BTW we like pictures, they are shiny:D
Mike......... Rowlett, Texas, near Dallas
86 MK V 500/520. 59 MK 5 Greenie Shorty. SS Jointer, SS Planer,
SS Bandsaw, SS Lathe duplicator, SS Belt Sander,SS Molder & Shaper,
SS Tenon master jig, SS Mortising kit, SS 2 1/4' Drum Sanders, Ringmaster, DC3300....
86 MK V 500/520. 59 MK 5 Greenie Shorty. SS Jointer, SS Planer,
SS Bandsaw, SS Lathe duplicator, SS Belt Sander,SS Molder & Shaper,
SS Tenon master jig, SS Mortising kit, SS 2 1/4' Drum Sanders, Ringmaster, DC3300....
I have seen discussions here of SS freezing because the belt gets stuck in the sheaves during maintenance or for some other reason.
if it freezes again when you re-assemble it, you might try mounting the sanding disk and trying to turn it by hand (with the SS unplugged). with the belt cover off, you ought to be able to tell what is binding.
Ivan
if it freezes again when you re-assemble it, you might try mounting the sanding disk and trying to turn it by hand (with the SS unplugged). with the belt cover off, you ought to be able to tell what is binding.
Ivan
Mark V (84) w/ jigsaw, belt sander, strip sander
ER10 awaiting restoration
ER10 awaiting restoration