4' x 8' sheet goods on shopsmith poll
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If I had a panel saw, I would not even consider doing it on a table saw. But then I would have to be cutting a lot more sheet goods than I do to even consider a panel saw.foxtrapper wrote:Can't answer your poll because of the way you've worded it.
I haven't done it, and won't bother, but not because of fear. Just because it's a pointlessly difficult thing to do on my old 500.
I've got access to a perfectly good panel saw, I far prefer that.
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I think that this is the one you want:
Are you kidding me? I have no idea what this means?
Ed
Are you kidding me? I have no idea what this means?
Ed
foxtrapper wrote:Can't answer your poll because of the way you've worded it.
I haven't done it, and won't bother, but not because of fear. Just because it's a pointlessly difficult thing to do on my old 500.
I've got access to a perfectly good panel saw, I far prefer that.
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My son in law's work once gave him and me access to a $35000 panel saw one of those German machines with .001" accuracy across a 15 foot capacity. It was almost fully automated also. But I lost that access.
I'm a fairly strong person so I could throw around a 5x10 x 3/4 sheet of cabinet grade sheet stock around and fairly safely cut it on a table saw with out and in feed tables with plenty of side support. I even tossed a few sheets of 3/4 MDF around also.
Then came the day when I had a sheet of 1 1/4 MDF which was 49 inches wide and 10 feet long. NO WAY! could I even lift it to handle it properly.
That is when I learned of the guide saw systems and began using an old CIAO clamp with saw plate, long before Ez or I even knew of Festool.
It is so easy come home with the sheet stock in the back of my truck. Slide not lift a sheet off on to my cutting table and saw it to size. My cut quality is good but this system limits me. Both Festool and Ez guide eliminate most of the limitations. Plus both EZ and Festool focus not only on cut ease and quality but also on air quality cutting down on saw dust. When you cut MDF that would be a blessing.
I'm a fairly strong person so I could throw around a 5x10 x 3/4 sheet of cabinet grade sheet stock around and fairly safely cut it on a table saw with out and in feed tables with plenty of side support. I even tossed a few sheets of 3/4 MDF around also.
Then came the day when I had a sheet of 1 1/4 MDF which was 49 inches wide and 10 feet long. NO WAY! could I even lift it to handle it properly.
That is when I learned of the guide saw systems and began using an old CIAO clamp with saw plate, long before Ez or I even knew of Festool.
It is so easy come home with the sheet stock in the back of my truck. Slide not lift a sheet off on to my cutting table and saw it to size. My cut quality is good but this system limits me. Both Festool and Ez guide eliminate most of the limitations. Plus both EZ and Festool focus not only on cut ease and quality but also on air quality cutting down on saw dust. When you cut MDF that would be a blessing.
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You have my attention: " I even tossed a few sheets of 3/4 MDF around also ". I've cut a few sheets of 3/4" MDF but I never tossed them around.
What is a CIAO clamp? Do you have a photo image? If we were working in a muffler shop I would not have to ask.
What is a CIAO clamp? Do you have a photo image? If we were working in a muffler shop I would not have to ask.
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It is very similar to the EEmerson clamp you posted earlier.dusty wrote:You have my attention: " I even tossed a few sheets of 3/4 MDF around also ". I've cut a few sheets of 3/4" MDF but I never tossed them around.
What is a CIAO clamp? Do you have a photo image? If we were working in a muffler shop I would not have to ask.
I was going to ask you about yours since mine is so old I don't know where to get accessories.
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Notice I said access to a panel saw. I didn't say I had one. Though I wouldn't mind having one.
Truthfully, just about everyone here has access to a panel saw. All the lumber stores have them and will cut big panels for you. Sometimes for free, sometimes for 50 cents a cut. So for nothing to a few dollars, you get all your plywood cut down to convenient easily handled pieces. That's a pretty good deal!
Can I cut a full sized sheet of plywood on a table saw? Yes. BTDT, don't like it. I'd rather use a panel saw or even a guide and a hand held circular saw on a set of sawbucks.
Truthfully, just about everyone here has access to a panel saw. All the lumber stores have them and will cut big panels for you. Sometimes for free, sometimes for 50 cents a cut. So for nothing to a few dollars, you get all your plywood cut down to convenient easily handled pieces. That's a pretty good deal!
Can I cut a full sized sheet of plywood on a table saw? Yes. BTDT, don't like it. I'd rather use a panel saw or even a guide and a hand held circular saw on a set of sawbucks.
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Have you noticed the quality of cuts off those machines in the big box stores. I could do better with a machine gun. I'm not one to make the same cut a couple of times to sweeten the cut. I want a good cut on the first cut.foxtrapper wrote:Notice I said access to a panel saw. I didn't say I had one. Though I wouldn't mind having one.
Truthfully, just about everyone here has access to a panel saw. All the lumber stores have them and will cut big panels for you. Sometimes for free, sometimes for 50 cents a cut. So for nothing to a few dollars, you get all your plywood cut down to convenient easily handled pieces. That's a pretty good deal!
Can I cut a full sized sheet of plywood on a table saw? Yes. BTDT, don't like it. I'd rather use a panel saw or even a guide and a hand held circular saw on a set of sawbucks.
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It is called customer service. Some stores have it and some do not.Ed in Tampa wrote:Have you noticed the quality of cuts off those machines in the big box stores. I could do better with a machine gun. I'm not one to make the same cut a couple of times to sweeten the cut. I want a good cut on the first cut.
I have had sheet goods cut down at my nearest Lowe's store. When I did, there was excessive tear out all along the cut. I told the gentleman - NO WAY. I won't take it that way. He called his manager. When she showed up, she told him to change the blade and cut another sheet. He did not know how so she showed him and cut a new sheet for me.
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Ed in Tampa wrote:Have you noticed the quality of cuts off those machines in the big box stores. I could do better with a machine gun. I'm not one to make the same cut a couple of times to sweeten the cut. I want a good cut on the first cut.
When I had the big box stores cut some sheets up to fit in my car I had them cut everything oversized and then used my Shopsmith to do the final cuts.
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12" Sliding Compound Mitre Saw, 1200 CFM DC