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Then I applied 2 parallel strips of 1/4" square draught/draft* excluder foam** where the old foam had been.
*UK/US translation
** More same! Closed cell foam weather stripping!
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** More same! Closed cell foam weather stripping!
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Well, I have a project ahead of me. I was able to pick up a 1 micron 14" x 42" hood at the Rockler outlet by me for $15. Based on my measurement (without removing the bag), it appears the circumference is about 60", so 60" / 3.14 (pie) = about 19" diameter. It appears that the original bag I mentioned probably would have fit.
Unfortunately, I didn't take the measurement before I bought the item and since I can't return in - I either have to find a different use for it or try to make a 20" to 14" adapter.
I thought about making a stacked platform of 3 pieces of plywood. The first circle would fit inside the dust collect, the second could be whatever size with closed cell foam to block the dust from leaking out and the third would be 14" so the hose clamp could fasten around the ring. I'd cut a large diameter hole in all three pieces like a donut to left the dust and airflow through.
Anyone have a better, easier idea - especially since I don't have circle making jig for my router.
Unfortunately, I didn't take the measurement before I bought the item and since I can't return in - I either have to find a different use for it or try to make a 20" to 14" adapter.
I thought about making a stacked platform of 3 pieces of plywood. The first circle would fit inside the dust collect, the second could be whatever size with closed cell foam to block the dust from leaking out and the third would be 14" so the hose clamp could fasten around the ring. I'd cut a large diameter hole in all three pieces like a donut to left the dust and airflow through.
Anyone have a better, easier idea - especially since I don't have circle making jig for my router.
Update
Just figured I would follow-up with what I did.
I gave up on trying to fashion a adapter. I ended up buying the 2.5 micron hood I first mentioned. Would have loved the Shopsmith hood, but at a third of the price I had to make that trade off. I think the hood I got was 33", so I can imagine how tall the 42" hood would be. I'll try to unload the smaller hood online or maybe make a fan filter.
I cleaned all the foam residue and most of the tape adhesive off the parts as I could. The foam turned into a black goop and the tape backing was amazingly strong - I couldn't get most of it to come off. I install new 3/4" foam weatherstripping which was a little thick. I'm still working on aligning the two rear screw holes. I just ran out of time.
The motor was dusty and I cleaned about half a cup of sawdust out of it. The machine seems much more powerful now. I am curious if I could fashion a 4" adapter. I know it was discontinued because it didn't work best for a fixed collector system, but I'd like the extra power for longer hose runs and my Rigid table saw with a 4" outlet.
I gave up on trying to fashion a adapter. I ended up buying the 2.5 micron hood I first mentioned. Would have loved the Shopsmith hood, but at a third of the price I had to make that trade off. I think the hood I got was 33", so I can imagine how tall the 42" hood would be. I'll try to unload the smaller hood online or maybe make a fan filter.
I cleaned all the foam residue and most of the tape adhesive off the parts as I could. The foam turned into a black goop and the tape backing was amazingly strong - I couldn't get most of it to come off. I install new 3/4" foam weatherstripping which was a little thick. I'm still working on aligning the two rear screw holes. I just ran out of time.
The motor was dusty and I cleaned about half a cup of sawdust out of it. The machine seems much more powerful now. I am curious if I could fashion a 4" adapter. I know it was discontinued because it didn't work best for a fixed collector system, but I'd like the extra power for longer hose runs and my Rigid table saw with a 4" outlet.
When I replaced my seals, I also added aluminum HVAC tape as a second seal. Didn't want any dust escaping thru a crack in the weatherstripping. Cheap insurance while it is clean and apart.
Cory
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The weather stripping had to compress a lot on the bottom and the sides to fit, so I figured I would be OK. I used a couple strips of Gorilla Tape across the top.ccmaydew wrote:When I replaced my seals, I also added aluminum HVAC tape as a second seal. Didn't want any dust escaping thru a crack in the weatherstripping. Cheap insurance while it is clean and apart.
The collector is easy to take apart. I'm hoping to run it through my Dust Vortex so I don't have to clean out the lower bag. I'm yet to really develop the skill to install it well. Actually, it would be nice if I could put the vortex there, but I'm not sure how low the bag needs to be to ensure the dust doesn't go on a never ending cycle in the machine.
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Using a 4" port will not increase any 'power'. Using a larger hose will decrease static pressure loss through the run, but at the expense of flow rate(cubic feet/min).
In order to maintain suspension of the particles, a minimum flow must be obtained.
IIUC Shopsmith discontinued the 4" adapter because the DC3300 was not able to provide sufficient flow rate with a 4" hose. Nick in his sawdust session went with 3" pvc sewer pipe for that reason and used all three 2 1/2" ports to service it.
I recommend that session prior to much 'system' planning.
In order to maintain suspension of the particles, a minimum flow must be obtained.
IIUC Shopsmith discontinued the 4" adapter because the DC3300 was not able to provide sufficient flow rate with a 4" hose. Nick in his sawdust session went with 3" pvc sewer pipe for that reason and used all three 2 1/2" ports to service it.
I recommend that session prior to much 'system' planning.
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[quote="JPG40504"]Using a 4" port will not increase any 'power'. Using a larger hose will decrease static pressure loss through the run, but at the expense of flow rate(cubic feet/min).
In order to maintain suspension of the particles, a minimum flow must be obtained.
IIUC Shopsmith discontinued the 4" adapter because the DC3300 was not able to provide sufficient flow rate with a 4" hose. Nick in his sawdust session went with 3" pvc sewer pipe for that reason and used all three 2 1/2" ports to service it.
I recommend that session prior to much 'system' planning.]
Thanks everyone!
I've watched part of that session, but still need to get a chance to watch it as home where I don't have to rely on the free internet connection that keeps dropping out.
I've look at the attachment to that session and the air flow is as follows:
Hoses Used:
1 107
2 100 Each
3 95 Each
I guess my though was a 4" hose would have the capacity of the machine 330 CFM, or at least the 95 x 3 = 285CFM. I've definitely noticed with the new bag the pressure on the filter is much lower when only running one 2 1/2" hose.
If I don't have a ability to modify to a 4" output, I'll probably try to create one of those Octopus contraptions Nick shows in the video. My table saw empties, but dust tend to collect on the sides of the pan, although I heard even with a bigger dust collector, that still may be the case.
In order to maintain suspension of the particles, a minimum flow must be obtained.
IIUC Shopsmith discontinued the 4" adapter because the DC3300 was not able to provide sufficient flow rate with a 4" hose. Nick in his sawdust session went with 3" pvc sewer pipe for that reason and used all three 2 1/2" ports to service it.
I recommend that session prior to much 'system' planning.]
Thanks everyone!
I've watched part of that session, but still need to get a chance to watch it as home where I don't have to rely on the free internet connection that keeps dropping out.
I've look at the attachment to that session and the air flow is as follows:
Hoses Used:
1 107
2 100 Each
3 95 Each
I guess my though was a 4" hose would have the capacity of the machine 330 CFM, or at least the 95 x 3 = 285CFM. I've definitely noticed with the new bag the pressure on the filter is much lower when only running one 2 1/2" hose.
If I don't have a ability to modify to a 4" output, I'll probably try to create one of those Octopus contraptions Nick shows in the video. My table saw empties, but dust tend to collect on the sides of the pan, although I heard even with a bigger dust collector, that still may be the case.