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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:18 pm
by fjimp
jm51 wrote:My shoulders have been making firmer contact for the last couple of years. :)

fjimp, there's about 8 foot of height once through the trap.


I didn't realise that DCs drew so much current. I've just checked my Henry (Numatic) and it's 1kw to 1.2kw.
No disrespect intended. Every time I find myself dealing with a trap door it seems to be a crawl space about 3' high. Wow an 8' high space, why not create a bigger opening and really put that space to use? Jim

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:04 pm
by JPG
fjimp wrote:No disrespect intended. Every time I find myself dealing with a trap door it seems to be a crawl space about 3' high. Wow an 8' high space, why not create a bigger opening and really put that space to use? Jim
Unless he takes it apart, he will have to to get the DC in there.


Gotta ask; This trap door on a boat deck?

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:42 am
by jm51
Shopsmith on a boat would be cool. Gas powered headstock and runs the propeller when not being used for repairs. :)

The trap is for cellar access.

This place was built during the golden age of Liverpool, circa 1900. Would have been basement = kitchen and top floor = servants quarters.

It is now 4 flats (apartments) and I've got the ground floor. The old kitchen couldn't be used for habitation due to lack of windows so it became like a crawlspace only higher. Water, gas and electricity come in there and there are drain/soil pipes running through which mess up the usable space a bit.

It's going to be my new workshop. Damp, ugly and awkward access but better than my current 'shop in a bedroom' which is too small.

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:01 am
by robinson46176
jm51 wrote:It's going to be my new workshop. Damp, ugly and awkward access but better than my current 'shop in a bedroom' which is too small.


Sometimes all we can do is the best we can with what we have available. :cool:
I can still clearly see a fellow's basement that I was in back in the early 1970's that made a big impression on me. It was under a smallish house, also from about 1900. I was there to install a new washing machine that I had sold him. The ceiling was fairly low (or the floor was high :D ), the ceiling was just the open joist floor above and the walls were fairly rough concrete. The floor was especially rough as the concrete had chipped and flaked badly all over its surface. Like many such houses here the basement had been dug out after the house was built probably to make a home for the central heating that came later, often in the 1920's. The entry was only from the outside and was awkward and narrow. It was a bit of a hassle just getting the new washer down there without scratching it.
The guy collected and restored old pool tables. How he got them down there is beyond my comprehension... He had 4 or 5 in there at that time. Not like these modern things. These were the old fancy ones with big wide top rails and about a half ton of slate bed.

This guy had probably used about 100 gallons of paint in that basement. He had carefully painted the floor above and the joist and all of the bridging with numerous coats of white paint until it made a smooth surface on the old rough sawn wood just from paint build-up.
He had painted the rough concrete walls the same way but in a light green. That rough flaked off concrete floor must have had at least 20 coats of light gray floor enamel on it. When you walked in it was surprising just how nice and bright and nice looking it was. You only realized just how rough it was before he started and really was yet after a closer look.
It made quite an impression on me in the "silk purse out of a sow's ear" department. :)

BTW, that house was only one of many where I encountered a very ancient 30 amp electrical service which consisted of a small meter mounted on a small ceramic base that had two screw-in fuses (all connections out and open) with branches off to all over the house in very lightweight "knob & tube" wiring. In most cases branch lines were just "T" splices, some soldered, some not then taped with a little friction tape. Scary...


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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:33 pm
by jm51
Nice story. With me it's sort of free space. It's not supposed to be used so it isn't being used. [Where's the look the other way smilie?]

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:39 pm
by STB
jm51 wrote:Nice story. With me it's sort of free space. It's not supposed to be used so it isn't being used. [Where's the look the other way smilie?]
If I remember correctly, In the recent past you posted a picture of the space full of old bricks and other debris have you cleared the space? Did all of the junk have to come out the 16 x 22 hole? Do all of the projects and materials also enter & exit the same access hole?