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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:15 pm
by Ed in Tampa
Nick
I wonder if part of the problem is, at least for me, I must click on the run arrow more than once to get the video to start. I usually see nothing until I click the first time, then I may or may not see something until I click a second time. At which point I usually get a message in the upper left of the video window "buffering".

Somehow I have learned to keep clicking the run arrow until I see this message. I usually have to click twice but in some cases it requires more.
I have no idea what is going on but like I said it was a learned procedure that I wonder if some are missing?
Ed

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:45 pm
by Nick
"I must click on the run arrow more than once to get the video to start."

For reasons that I can't explain, you must first click somewhere on the screen of a Windows Media player to "activate" the controls. Sometimes a message comes up with the player, "Click here to use controls." Other times, the viewer is left to figure it out on his own. If I knew how to make that message appear each time the player loaded, I surely would.

With all good wishes,

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:46 pm
by greitz
I have the same experience as Ed- it always takes two separate clicks to run the video. Maybe the first click just "activates the window" or something?

Gary

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:57 pm
by paulmcohen
Nick wrote:"I must click on the run arrow more than once to get the video to start."

For reasons that I can't explain, you must first click somewhere on the screen of a Windows Media player to "activate" the controls. Sometimes a message comes up with the player, "Click here to use controls." Other times, the viewer is left to figure it out on his own. If I knew how to make that message appear each time the player loaded, I surely would.

With all good wishes,
Welcome to Vista and IE-7, it is a security feature (bug).

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:45 pm
by ghost
Hmmm, well I tried clicking where the video window is. Nothing. Clicked until I was blue in the face. The windows media player never appears. Just the background showing.
Interesting that Paul has the same setup as I do and it works. What is "SWF & FLV player"?

Jeff

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:19 pm
by fixit
paulmcohen wrote:Welcome to Vista and IE-7, it is a security feature (bug).

Paul is correct. You have to click on the control to activate it because some controls are malicious and the software won't let them activate until YOU make the decision to use it. I think it's also a CYA "feature" for Microsoft. If the software ran without input from the user it's possible (probable?) that someone would try to sue MS for maclicious software that did damage to their system. But don't get me started :mad: about frivilous lawsuits!

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:32 pm
by ghost
Well, the experiment continues: I noticed Paul's version of Flip4Mac was x.x.0.049 which was slightly newer than mine. Quick stop at their web site fixed that. New version installed. Test page: nothing. The media player is not loading for me.
I never had problems with the archived sessions, so never read the FAQ that lists the SWF & FLV player. Visited that site, downloaded. Seems to make no difference for the live or archived sessions.
I'm about ready to give up. I'll sleep on it.

Jeff

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:46 pm
by paulmcohen
ghost wrote:Hmmm, well I tried clicking where the video window is. Nothing. Clicked until I was blue in the face. The windows media player never appears. Just the background showing.
Interesting that Paul has the same setup as I do and it works. What is "SWF & FLV player"?

Jeff
I don't know exactly, I found it on a MAC site and it is used to extract Google Videos and save them on your hard drive (Paid version only) as well as other purposes. For free you can play a Google video (and others) outside the Browser window which on the Shopsmith site is too small for the MAC.

I run Windows XP and OSX on the MAC and Vista and IE-7 on dedicated Windows computers.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:52 pm
by paulmcohen
ghost wrote:Well, the experiment continues: I noticed Paul's version of Flip4Mac was x.x.0.049 which was slightly newer than mine. Quick stop at their web site fixed that. New version installed. Test page: nothing. The media player is not loading for me.
Jeff
When you right click on the video windows what application is running, if it is Flip4MAC you will see information about it. If it is Windows Media Player you have an install issue with Flip4MAC.

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:22 pm
by ghost
Paul,

The problem as I see it is the video player is not loading on the test page. There is nothing in the window but the background. There is nothing for me to click on. That is why I originally asked if the page was working.
Something on my computer must not be calling for the video player.
Frustrating.
I'm going to back down to OS9 and see if I can see anything with that.

Jeff