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Darn. By the title of this thread I thought that Shopsmith was having some big sale. Oh, well.

Yeah, those birthers are hard to understand why they cling to their belief. You'd think they'd be convinced of where he was born after getting a photo-shopped copy of his birth certificate from the White House. And, then there are those folks who question how a guy living in Hawaii could get a Social Security card with a number that would be issued to a Connecticut resident. It must be because of another one of those governmental clerical errors. Then there are those who wonder why the "most transparent president in history" has such a secret college record. Or, why no one has seen any writings from his stint as president of the Harvard Law Review. To paraphrase Churchill, he's "a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma. But why are we are to believe? Just because?

pennview wrote:Yeah, those birthers are hard to understand why they cling to their belief. You'd think they'd be convinced of where he was born after getting a photo-shopped copy of his birth certificate from the White House. And, then there are those folks who question how a guy living in Hawaii could get a Social Security card with a number that would be issued to a Connecticut resident. It must be because of another one of those governmental clerical errors. Then there are those who wonder why the "most transparent president in history" has such a secret college record. Or, why no one has seen any writings from his stint as president of the Harvard Law Review. To paraphrase Churchill, he's "a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma. But why are we are to believe? Just because?

When the Social Security Card was issued, I wonder if they were smart enough to make the Social Security number appropriate for the date of issue.

Hmmm, I wonder when that was.

All one needs to do is Google it. It is now perfectly clear. No hankipanky at all. Just a simple clerical error and a lot of misinformation.

nutball wrote:Raised and mentored by marxists/communists/socialists (whatever you want to call them), hung around with marxists/communists/socialists in college, joined at least one marxist/communist/socialist political group in Chicago, went to church for 20+ years led by a marxist/communist/socialist, surrounded himself with marxists/communists/socialists from academia as cabinet members and czars (for example, does the name Van Jones ring a bell?).

Nope, he's not a radical at all.

Ding Dong, now it does. I just googled him. He's an interesting guy.

dusty wrote:When the Social Security Card was issued, I wonder if they were smart enough to make the Social Security number appropriate for the date of issue.

Hmmm, I wonder when that was.

All one needs to do is Google it. It is now perfectly clear. No hankipanky at all. Just a simple clerical error and a lot of misinformation.

Interesting info about what the ssn means.

Deconstructing the SSN

As a result of the June 1936 decision, the current SSN is composed of three parts:

The first three digits are the area number
The next two digits are the group number
The final four digits are the serial number
Area Number

The 3-digit area number is assigned by geographic region. In 1936 the Social Security Board planned eventually to use area numbers to redistribute work to its 12 regional centers to serve workers in those areas. One or more area numbers were allocated to each state based on the anticipated number of SSN issuances in the state.3 Prior to 1972, the numbers were issued to local offices for assignment to individuals; it was thought this would capture information about the worker's residence. So, until 1972, the area number represented the state in which the card was issued. (Barron and Bamberger 1982, 29).

Generally, area numbers were assigned in ascending order beginning in the northeast and then moving westward. For the most part, people on the east coast have the lowest area numbers and those on the west coast have the highest area numbers. However, area numbers did not always reflect the worker's residence. During the initial registration in 1936 and 1937, businesses with branches throughout the country had employees return their SS-5 Application for Account Number to their national headquarters, so these SSNs carried the area number where the headquarters were located. As a result, the area numbers assigned to big cities, such as New York, Philadelphia, Boston, and Chicago, were used for workers in many other parts of the country (McKinley and Frase 1970, 373). Also, a worker could apply in person for a card in any Social Security office, and the area number would reflect that office's location, regardless of the worker's residence.

Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, MD, the area number has been assigned based on the ZIP code of the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant's mailing address may not be the same as the place of residence.

Some exceptions to the general east-to-west, ascending-order area numbering scheme exist:

Sequence 700 through 728 was assigned to railroad workers until July 1963.
586 was divided among American Samoa, Guam, the Philippines, Americans employed abroad by American employers and, from 1975 to 1979, Indochinese refugees.
580 was assigned to Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands; sequences 581 through 584 and 596 through 599 were also assigned to Puerto Rico.
Sequence 577 through 579 was assigned to the District of Columbia.
Sequences 587 through 588 and 589 through 595 were assigned to Mississippi and Florida, respectively, for use after those states exhausted their initial area number allotments.
Sequence 729 through 733 has been allocated to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for SSNs issued through the Enumeration at Entry (EaE) program, described below.
No SSNs with an area number in the 800s or 900s, or with a 000 area number, have been assigned.
No SSNs with an area number of 666 have been or will be assigned.
SSA has many years' worth of potential SSNs available for future assignment. However, because of population shifts, SSA now faces an imbalance in the geographic allocation of area numbers. Some states have a current allocation of SSNs that will last for many years, while others have a pending shortage. As a result, given present rates of assignment and existing geographic allocations, several states currently have fewer than 10 years' worth of SSNs available for assignment.

In a July 3, 2007, Federal Register notice, SSA solicited public comment on a proposal to change the way SSNs are assigned (SSA 2007b). Under this proposal, SSA would randomly assign SSNs from the remaining pool of available numbers, and the first three digits would no longer have any geographic significance. SSA contends that doing so would ensure a reliable supply of SSNs for years to come, and would also reduce opportunities for identity theft and SSN fraud and misuse. SSA plans additional discussion with other government entities and the private sector before implementing any change.

Group Number

The group number (the fourth and fifth digits of the SSN) was initially determined by the procedure of issuing numbers in groups of 10,000 to post offices for assignment on behalf of the Social Security Board's Bureau of Old-Age Benefits. The group numbers range from 01 to 99 (00 is not used), but for administrative reasons, they are not assigned consecutively. Within each area number allocated to a state, the sequence of group number assignments begins with the odd-numbered group numbers from 01 to 09, followed by even group numbers 10 through 98, then even numbers 02 through 08, and finally odd numbers 11 through 99.4

Serial Number

The last four digits of the SSN are the serial number. The serial number represents a straight numerical series of numbers from 0001–9999 within each group. Serial number 0000 is not assigned.

I must agree with Republican Mike Murphy who explained the GOP failed to pay attention to the recent demographics. He also said there would be no winning for the GOP until they change the old strategies,

Other analysts pointed out the Dems anticipated the demographic changes in the last few years and tailored their campaign and even their words to attract the correct areas. The Dems even figured county by county - the possible pluralities to favor them. This is truly a more sophisticated/computerized system than ever used before.

The way it worked out, David Plough (not sure of the spelling) was a genius in running the Democrat's campaign.

charlese wrote:I must agree with Republican Mike Murphy who explained the GOP failed to pay attention to the recent demographics. He also said there would be no winning for the GOP until they change the old strategies,

Other analysts pointed out the Dems anticipated the demographic changes in the last few years and tailored their campaign and even their words to attract the correct areas. The Dems even figured county by county - the possible pluralities to favor them. This is truly a more sophisticated/computerized system than ever used before.

The way it worked out, David Plough (not sure of the spelling) was a genius in running the Democrat's campaign.

I think one commentator said it best. This is no longer a country where people buy into Kennedy's quote, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

The Democratic party sold the country the idea that they are going to solve all the problems by taxing the rich. Most people don't consider themselves to be in the category of "rich", so they said hey that sounds good. Besides those rich guys can afford it. End of discussion.

Ed in Tampa wrote:The Democratic party sold the country the idea that they are going to solve all the problems by taxing the rich. Most people don't consider themselves to be in the category of "rich", so they said hey that sounds good. Besides those rich guys can afford it. End of discussion.

They also overlook the fact that they could confiscate the entire wealth of the "rich" and it would still not fund a full year of government spending.
http://youtu.be/661pi6K-8WQ

Very insightful

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

Lots of other interesting and insightful comments at
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/465.Alexis_de_Tocqueville

I'm gonna download the book "Democracy In America" to my kindle.

terrydowning wrote: . . .

Lots of other interesting and insightful comments at
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/465.Alexis_de_Tocqueville
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Interesting indeed!