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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:11 pm
by JPG
dgale wrote:Use advanced search on E-Bay, enter "Shopsmith Miter" as your keywords, click the "completed listings" button (you have to make sure the "Title and Description" button is deselcted forst in order to be able to select the completed listings button). This will show you a bunch of past auctions for various miter gauge related items, inclucing a bunch of what you're after and this will give you a good sense of what they've sold for in the past.
As you look at the various auctions for these miter gauges, note that the hold down/safety grip has changed a bit over time, primarily having to do with how the hold down screw is adjusted. The older ones had a knurled nut on top of the bolt, while the newer ones have a big wing nut with black plastic wings on it. I'm not sure there's a lot of difference but thought you might want to know in case you have a preference.
Here is a photo of the older type:
And here is the newer type:
Also, make sure you get one for a 500 and not a 510 or 520 - the difference is the 510 and 520 have a t-slot for the miter bar, which has spring-loaded wheels that fit in the t-slots. The 500 is just a rectangular bar with no t-slot wheels - the 510/520 miter gauge won't fit on your 500. Most folks note the model # in their descriptions and/or you can tell by the photos.
Wheels????
The 510/520 bars have the 't-slot washer', but it can be removed(a single screw) for use in a earlier model(and belt sander etc.).
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:23 pm
by dgale
JPG40504 wrote:Wheels????
The 510/520 bars have the 't-slot washer', but it can be removed(a single screw) for use in a earlier model(and belt sander etc.).
Thanks for the clarification - as a 500 owner, I've never actually seen a 510/520 miter gauge firsthand, so was guessing a bit based on photos. I didn't realize they were interchangeable. Unless I'm mistaken, that's definitely not the case with the rip fences.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:38 pm
by rdavidp
dgale wrote:Thanks for the clarification - as a 500 owner, I've never actually seen a 510/520 miter gauge firsthand, so was guessing a bit based on photos. I didn't realize they were interchangeable. Unless I'm mistaken, that's definitely not the case with the rip fences.
You are right about the rip fence. The 510 and 520 tables are wider than the 500 table.
I also placed a bid on the tailstock from the same guy who put up the miter gauge. Basically right now my shopsmith is nothing more than a very large disk sander and bandsaw. I need a drill chuck, miter gauge, rip fence(did find one with a good bid now price), auxillary table for the end, saw arbor, tailstock, and all the centers and plates for lathe turning. Only thing the shopsmith came with was the base, the headstock, saw table, disk sander, and bandsaw attachment. I also have quite a few lathe chisles, both Shopsmith and Buck Bros., from the original owner, just no lathe parts.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:01 pm
by dgale
rdavidp wrote:You are right about the rip fence. The 510 and 520 tables are wider than the 500 table.
I also placed a bid on the tailstock from the same guy who put up the miter gauge. Basically right now my shopsmith is nothing more than a very large disk sander and bandsaw. I need a drill chuck, miter gauge, rip fence(did find one with a good bid now price), auxillary table for the end, saw arbor, tailstock, and all the centers and plates for lathe turning. Only thing the shopsmith came with was the base, the headstock, saw table, disk sander, and bandsaw attachment. I also have quite a few lathe chisles, both Shopsmith and Buck Bros., from the original owner, just no lathe parts.
Virtually all of that stuff is readily available on E-Bay, so do a bit of searching on completed auctions to see what it's been selling for so you don't over pay. For the rip fence, there is the original version and an upgraded version - the original has a twist knob on the infeed end for tightening and the upgraded version has a lever you flip down to secure it. The upgraded ones are a bit less frequent on E-Bay and tend to go for $50-$100 if I remember correctly. The older versions probably go for a fair bit less and should be listed more frequently. Also, for the auxiliary table, note that there is the original narrow version and an upgraded wider version - both seem to be fairly common on E-Bay and both seen like they sell fairly cheaply.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:16 pm
by rdavidp
dgale wrote:Virtually all of that stuff is readily available on E-Bay, so do a bit of searching on completed auctions to see what it's been selling for so you don't over pay. For the rip fence, there is the original version and an upgraded version - the original has a twist knob on the infeed end for tightening and the upgraded version has a lever you flip down to secure it. The upgraded ones are a bit less frequent on E-Bay and tend to go for $50-$100 if I remember correctly. The older versions probably go for a fair bit less and should be listed more frequently. Also, for the auxiliary table, note that there is the original narrow version and an upgraded wider version - both seem to be fairly common on E-Bay and both seen like they sell fairly cheaply.
Yeah, I have already found everything I need, currently bidding on miter gauge and tailstock, bought the rip fence. The rip fence is the original with the twist knob for $15. I just need to be sure I don't buy everything else right now. Don't want to have all the Shopsmith pieces, but no electricity to run it.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:44 pm
by saminmn
rdavidp wrote:Yeah, I have already found everything I need, currently bidding on miter gauge and tailstock, bought the rip fence. The rip fence is the original with the twist knob for $15. I just need to be sure I don't buy everything else right now. Don't want to have all the Shopsmith pieces, but no electricity to run it.

I expect you knew or figured it out, but shipping and handling can vary quite a bit from seller to seller. So, you have to add that to the purchase price (or bid) to know how to compare alternatives.
Also, I found that a
front extension table (or 2) is an essential for model 500 crosscuts. I bought mine off ebay.
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:43 am
by holsgo
If you lose the bid, I have an extra tailstock to sell. Been sitting here for over 2 years with nothing to do.
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:00 am
by rdavidp
I won a miter gauge and the tailstock all for a decent price. Also won a set of push pads and the hold down that rides the rip fence, all from the same guy. The guy also had a 1 1/4 saw arbor, but did not have in his description whether it was for the 500 or 510/520. No one placed a bid on it, and the price was around $5.00. I e-mailed him to see if he combines the shipping since it is all going to one place, instead of paying for three seperate packages. At this point, I am going to have to stop buying for a couple of weeks as I have also bought a power switch from DelCity and a replacement lower guard roller bearing for the bandsaw, two new rubber tires, new motor drive belt, and poly-v belt from Shopsmith.
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:13 am
by db5
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