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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:39 am
by JPG
1) Roll SS outdoors.

2) Position fan so it blows the 'waste' away from the building.

3) Proceed to make waste.

4) If you should see your neighbor(from downwind) looking/approaching, tis time for a long potty call!

5) When 'done', get out the leaf blower and help the natural winds disperse what remains.

6) Roll SS back indoors and 'cover it up'.

7) Deny having any such tool when the EPA gendarmes arrive.

8) Go to confession and ask for prayers of forgiveness.



Oh do realize you must then forever never reveal the bowl(or whatever) to anyone outside of immediate family.:eek:



Ever been to a barber shop recently? Shears attached to vacuum tube.:D



P.S. See #10 this thread!

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:41 am
by fredsheldon
joshh wrote:Get a 55 gallon drum with lid and put a dust deputy on it. Those things are simply amazing. Woodcraft normally stocks it for $39.99
Will the dust deputy draw the chips into it as they are flying off the lathe with the addition of some type of collector system or is it used to suck up whats on the floor after you are finished.

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:51 am
by JPG
fredsheldon wrote:Will the dust deputy draw the chips into it as they are flying off the lathe with the addition of some type of collector system or is it used to suck up whats on the floor after you are finished.
Not well(see barber reference above) and yes.

With a large (rigid sided) container under the dust deputy that 5G vac will provide plenty of suck.

Sucking however has a very small range of effectiveness.

Your movable barrier idea will likely be a good 'compromise'.(they will get in the way of the fan however).;)

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:51 am
by dusty
fredsheldon wrote:Will the dust deputy draw the chips into it as they are flying off the lathe with the addition of some type of collector system or is it used to suck up whats on the floor after you are finished.
I'm not a turner so I have no proven solutions to offer BUT I have seen some collector screens Scoops) that sit on the back side and are attached to a goody size vacuum. The DC is grossly inadequate for this task but then it was not designed for that purpose.

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:17 am
by fredsheldon
dusty wrote:I'm not a turner so I have no proven solutions to offer BUT I have seen some collector screens Scoops) that sit on the back side and are attached to a goody size vacuum. The DC is grossly inadequate for this task but then it was not designed for that purpose.

My experience so far has shown that most of the chips/shavings tend to fly towards me rather than away from me. I believe my best solution will be to find a way to contain the chips using some type of movable panels behind and in front of me and plastic sheets to cover up all the stuff around me on the floor, then vac up using a dust deputy setup when I'm finished. I really don't need the fan, I have A/C which I can use.

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:48 am
by pinebeetle
New to bowl turning I also have been working with the same dilemma. I have a 2HP grizzly dust collector coming and will let you know how that works out,but in the mean time I have hung plastic on the walls behind and on the sides of my SS. It has helped a lot. I also considered the cheep plastic tarps hung like a shower curtain. That way you could push them back when not in use. Kind of build a 'paint booth' around SS area.

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:03 am
by terrydowning
This is my Dust/chip collector of choice when turning bowls, especially larger ones.
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Same preference for jointer operations as well. The vacuum just can't keep up.

The main problem with turning is that the chips and shavings tend to come back towards the operator, so any scoops/deflectors will just get in your way. Another problem with turning bowls is the moisture content, especially if you turn green/wet wood. Even if I had a massive DC that could keep up, i wouldn't want to put all those wet shavings through a DC.

I just let it fly and then sweep when done. Factor in time for sweeping as part of your shop time. The LOML really hates it when her car is left out so I empathize.

I see you're leaving a post to support the live center. I hope that's working better for you.

That's a nice looking bowl Fred. Good job.

Chip problem

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:08 am
by jimthej
How about a "Positive Pressure" helmet with a Teflon Coated Snuggie type drape attached to the helmet and a 4' bow across the shoulders. It could funnel down to a 3' wide, 1" vacuum pickup on the floor that comes from the dust deputy on the back side of your Shopsmith. Sort of a super size one of those gizmos they use for handling radioactive and contagious stuff. :D

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:14 am
by anmius
The best solution I have seen to keep the chips confined to a specific area (instead of all over the shop) is to install a shower curtain enclosure. Mount a shower curtain rod on the two (or three or four) sides of the area where you are going to be turning and then hang shower curtains on them. You can move them aside when you aren't turning and when you need to enter and exit. It isn't perfect but works pretty well, especially if you have some decent dust collection at the point of chip creation.

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:23 am
by terrydowning
Fortunately for me wet turning the chips don't really spread. They tend to hit the ground immediately and pile up nicely or stick to to pretty much everything. Sometimes I think I need a raincoat when turning.

Don't forget to clear off the wet shavings from the tubes and any other steel or iron parts and make sure they're dry before stopping for the night.