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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:43 pm
by dgale
My father travelled externsively around the world for business in the 60's-80's - he always wore a coat and tie and enjoyed the type of service youd expect from a quality business or restaurant. As things degraded (both with the airlines and with the passengers), he shifted to always flying first or business class, simply to try and maintain some caliber of service and class.

I also remember as a kid always going to the airport (SFO) with my Mom to pick my Dad up - my Mom would pull up to the curb and drop me off and I'd run in to the gate to great him as he got off the plane...no security check, no shoe removal, no full cavity search...just a kid getting to hug his Dad as he got off the plane...gone are the days.

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:26 pm
by johnwilliamson062
I dress when I need to pass customs or when I expect a client car to pick me up at the other end. I'm not dressing up to spend 8 hours cramped next to someone and eat unsalted pretzels. Now, I still have at least one button and something that needs tied or buckled, but I'm not dressing as my grandparents did when they flew on the Concord.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:07 am
by pieceseeker
Luckily, I don't have a job or a lifestyle that requires flying or to fly somewhere just because it would be more convenient.

So, I have no problem when I see people on TV complaining about the airlines, prices, baggage, etc., to scream at the TV....






























DON'T FLY !!!!! :D

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:23 am
by fredsheldon
Or, if you can afford it do like I did, buy your own plane and get a pilots license so you can do your own flying. It sure was fun and convenient while I could afford it :D

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:41 pm
by fjimp
Last month my bride and I flew to San Francisco for a wedding. The security including the body scan in Denver was uneventful. The woman standing by the exit side of the scanner. Asked why I had trouble holding my arm in the air? I responded I has recently had a a shoulder replacement. She looked a bit surprised and ask if it would be painful for her to pat the shoulder. I responded no and she checked it. Then she commented that that my shouder scanned differently then most. I explained the type of my replacement was a new procedure and different then most.

The security in San Francisco was different only in that I had to remove my belt. I still do every thing within my power to avoid flying. I really do not enjoy the the scrutiny and at smaller airports the lack of proper training. Jim

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:24 pm
by JPG
fjimp wrote:Last month my bride and I flew to San Francisco for a wedding. The security including the body scan in Denver was uneventful. The woman standing by the exit side of the scanner. Asked why I had trouble holding my arm in the air? I responded I has recently had a a shoulder replacement. She looked a bit surprised and ask if it would be painful for her to pat the shoulder. I responded no and she checked it. Then she commented that that my shouder scanned differently then most. I explained the type of my replacement was a new procedure and different then most.

The security in San Francisco was different only in that I had to remove my belt. I still do every thing within my power to avoid flying. I really do not enjoy the the scrutiny and at smaller airports the lack of proper training. Jim


Perhaps training, but I think a lack of proper etiquette is another.

I think they staffed up with a bunch of unqualified cop wannabees.

There are reasonable folks there that perform well under trying circumstances, but the rumps(posteriors) with a cavity garner all the bad attention thus adding to the distaste of the procedures by the passengers that adds to the trying circumstances by the reasonable folks.

That and the absurdness of the 'procedures'. After a misguided individual gets on a plane with an exploding neck tie we will all be forced to remove our neckties.:(

And kudos to that 'exit' lady who handled your 'anomaly' very courteously.

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:35 pm
by frank81
JPG40504 wrote:Perhaps training, but I think a lack of proper etiquette is another.
Bingo, but on top of that the organization doesn't prioritize ettiquette so the bad just get worse.

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:48 am
by ss50th
It's my understanding that even the medical profession is miffed about the security regulations. Now, their patients can go to an airport, get a free x-ray, free mammogram for females, and if the words "Al Queda" are mentioned a free colonoscopy.
It just ain't right!!!

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:50 am
by Ed in Tampa
My buddy had a solution for terrorism.
Carry your own bomb on the plane.

What are the chances of having two bombs on the same plane.


Terrorism is defeated! :D

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:40 pm
by JPG
Ed in Tampa wrote:My buddy had a solution for terrorism.
Carry your own bomb on the plane.

What are the chances of having two bombs on the same plane.


Terrorism is defeated! :D
It the bombs are in disguise as neck ties, not very likely since passengers today are 'slovenly' attired!:rolleyes: