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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:21 pm
by algale
Many good responses, thanks all!

This wood door lasted 35 years so I think real wood, painted, will be ok. Heck, I don't intend to be in this house 35 years from now!

Ed, I know zero about that pvc product you mentioned Can it be glued up with regular wood glues and milled without damaging regular wood working tools? I've got to cut some pretty hefty dados in this material.

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:54 pm
by dgale
charlese wrote:Don't know that redwood would take paint to your specs. Best wood listed so far is white oak.
What is your concern with redwood and taking paint? I use 1-2 coats of the Zinsser oil-based primer ("cover stain"), which can be top coated with latex paint once dried...never had any problems and I've painted hundreds of square feet of redwood exterior trim and lap siding.

Also, for areas prone to water damage, I always coat exterior surfaces and also fill any joints, gouges, screw holes etc. with West System marine epoxy:
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/

I typically use the 407 low density filler, as it's easy to sand and can be mixed with the epoxy until thick like peanut butter, so it doesn't run on vertical surfaces:
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/407-low-density-filler/

I also always use stainless star-headed screws when install or repairing exterior items prone to water exposure etc.

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:00 pm
by JPG
What is a 'star' headed screw?:confused:

Phillips
Torx
Bristol
Reed Prince
???

;)

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:16 pm
by dgale
[quote="JPG40504"]What is a 'star' headed screw?:confused:

Phillips
Torx
Bristol
Reed Prince
???

]

Power Pro Stainless Outdoor wood screws with "star drive". Yes, the "star" is a torx drive (T20 or T25) but all the carpenters around me call them star-drive screws (only time I ever hear torx mentioned is when I'm working on my car) and even the company calls them star drive. Once I switched to these screws, I promptly threw every square-drive screw I had in the trash - the bit never slips and the head never strips on these.

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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:18 pm
by SDSSmith
Built a casement style window for a friend and used vertical grain fir.

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:27 pm
by dgale
SDSSmith wrote:Built a casement style window for a friend and used vertical grain fir.
I totally agree - clear, vertical grain fir is always a pleasure to work with, although I always hate to paint it when the time comes...

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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:34 pm
by sheauselike
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:38 pm
by dgale
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VGF is nice but tricky

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:18 pm
by forrestb
I recommend that you go with white oak (I have used it for threshold repairs) or plain Douglas fir and avoid the VGF. My experience with it is that it looks nice but has a tendency to crack along the grain and splinters like you wouldn't believe.:eek:

But really, most any wood you use will outlast you as long as you protect it from UV and water (being totally always UNDER water the exception).

Forrest

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:16 am
by skou
dgale wrote:Me smells a Spam Rat
You're not the only one!

But, he (she?) didn't leave a link. GOOD!

steve