JPG40504 wrote:If the decision was between a new SS and the SS v120, the incra is a no brainer. (brainier):D
BUT it's only accurate to ONE degree! To me that means if ya set it to a 45°, it could be 44° or 46°.
Shopsmith vs. Incra Miter Gauge?
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BUT it's only accurate to ONE degree! To me that means if ya set it to a 45°, it could be 44° or 46°.
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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I've owned my Shopsmith since 1981 and used the miter gauge that came with it up to just a few years ago with great success. But then I found the Osborne EB-3-SS miter gauge and I haven't looked back. You may not believe it but it works just fine on my "500" even though it was made for "520s." So, I can heartily endorse it! It just happens to be the same one that Norm Abram of New Yankee Workshop used when that show was on the air (but modified to fit the Shopsmith).
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1981 Mark V 500, bandsaw, belt sander, jig saw, jointer; contractor's table saw; multiple circular saws and miter saws; and a trailer full of tools.
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Abraham Lincoln
1981 Mark V 500, bandsaw, belt sander, jig saw, jointer; contractor's table saw; multiple circular saws and miter saws; and a trailer full of tools.
"It is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"
Abraham Lincoln
dusty wrote:Capability to the t-slot was the question. This being said, I guess there are no reservations to recommendiung the Incra. Interesting to note, during the Shopsmith/Lowes demo this past week, I noticed that Miuke Young was pushing the Incra Miter Gauge.
In red is what he's typing about.
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dusty wrote:Capability to the t-slot was the question. This being said, I guess there are no reservations to recommendiung the Incra. Interesting to note, during the Shopsmith/Lowes demo this past week, I noticed that Miuke Young was pushing the Incra Miter Gauge.
There!:D
BEEG:
Do not confuse resolution with repeatability or accuracy.
They be three different things.
Resolution of 1 degree can be accurate to a small fraction of a degree and is a function of the manufacturing accuracy.
Repeatability is the ability to duplicate a setting at another time/setup and is a function of the detenting mechanism.
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So it would look like the hold down shown here: http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/swd_mitergauge.htm?JPG40504 wrote: Since $ is a factor, I would lean towards used SS with a newer hold down.
And is that hold down what slots into the hole on the rip fence?
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freedomlives wrote:So it would look like the hold down shown here: http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/swd_mitergauge.htm?
And is that hold down what slots into the hole on the rip fence?
No, I was referring to item B in that link(safety grip)
Gotta be careful here!:eek:
A Mark 5/v500 fence has a hole in the top. A 505/510 or 520 fence has slots in the top.
The M5/v500 hole is for a mortising hold down to mount.
The 505-520 slots are far more useful.
Items E and F have 'stops', not hold downs.
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JPG40504 wrote:BEEG:
Do not confuse resolution with repeatability or accuracy.
They be three different things.
Resolution of 1 degree can be accurate to a small fraction of a degree and is a function of the manufacturing accuracy.
Repeatability is the ability to duplicate a setting at another time/setup and is a function of the detenting mechanism.
So your saying that the resolution is "accurate to ONE degree", but the accuracy of those degrees are unstated?
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I think I'll go with the SS original style miter gauge with new hold down for now. I can imagine making a jig like that miterset for commonly used angles.
I have in mind for the present year to make different home furnishings as needed for us, like cabinets, hopefully a rocking chair for my wife (her big desire to have), some doors for the house...
How useful would it be to get the miter-slot extension for the saw table? I know a 510/520 upgrade would be better, but those parts won't all fit in a suitcase and cost a whole lot more!
I have in mind for the present year to make different home furnishings as needed for us, like cabinets, hopefully a rocking chair for my wife (her big desire to have), some doors for the house...
How useful would it be to get the miter-slot extension for the saw table? I know a 510/520 upgrade would be better, but those parts won't all fit in a suitcase and cost a whole lot more!
The "missing information" is from the incra web site.
Positive angle-locking V-Stops (every 1⁄2° on some models) are machined to extreme accuracy by industrial CNC laser into the solid steel Protractor Miter Head that you’ll find at the heart of every INCRA Miter Gauge. The result is a record-breaking 1⁄ 50° accuracy and 1⁄100° repeatability at EVERY preset angle stop. All models include an oversized clamping knob for secure angle setting any where between incremental stops.
Just saying that is what they claim and I sure have no way of checking up on them. I also have the the 1000HD combined with a miter express, it can be set to 1/10 degree increments if you need to get that close.
Ed
Positive angle-locking V-Stops (every 1⁄2° on some models) are machined to extreme accuracy by industrial CNC laser into the solid steel Protractor Miter Head that you’ll find at the heart of every INCRA Miter Gauge. The result is a record-breaking 1⁄ 50° accuracy and 1⁄100° repeatability at EVERY preset angle stop. All models include an oversized clamping knob for secure angle setting any where between incremental stops.
Just saying that is what they claim and I sure have no way of checking up on them. I also have the the 1000HD combined with a miter express, it can be set to 1/10 degree increments if you need to get that close.
Ed