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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:17 pm
by JPG
Fred Grover wrote:Would you happen to have a link to where you can purchase that Planer by Lie-Neilson ?

http://www.lie-nielsen.com/low-angle-bench-planes/

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:46 pm
by terrydowning
Fred Grover wrote:Would you happen to have a link to where you can purchase that Planer by Lie-Neilson ?
Lie-Nielsen all made in Maine USA.
http://www.lie-nielsen.com/low-angle-bench-planes/low-angle-jack-plane/

Save your pennies! Not as expensive as an original and probably better quality (The ductile Iron used in the modern planes does make a durability difference). The remaining Stanley 62 Planes in the wild are true collectibles and priced accordingly.

Other Options
Veritas - Different designs and more modern approach to hand tools
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=49708&cat=1,41182,41186,49708

Stanley - attempting to compete with Veritas and Lie-Nielsen on the upscale Hand Plane market. (Or at least keep some sort of brand recognition). I know more than a couple of people that have to back and forth with Stanley on these until they were satisfied (and it was still lesser quality than the other two above. The latest sweetheart line from Stanley is still better than the big box store and "Contractor" grade offerings from Stanley (Which I personally would not spend my money on).
http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-12-137-No-62-Angle-Plane/dp/B002B56CUY

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:23 am
by WmZiggy
Thanks Terry, you've filled it in handsomely.

I would add that the original Stanley #62s are often found with a broken throat edge where the blade comes through the sole. This makes them unusable and was a casting flaw by Stanley. The new models by the makers Terry has cited are really superior with thicker blades (less chatter), better steel and castings. The new ones are expensive too, but good tools always are.

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:39 am
by WmZiggy
I thought of a PS here. I have both Lie-Nelsen and Veritas (although not in a 62 style plane). Both, as Terry says are superior to the new Stanleys. There is also a new comer to the market carried by Woodcraft by WoodRiver.

http://www.woodcraft.com/search2/search ... =woodriver

When I was at Woodcraft in November I asked why they dumped their Lie-Nelsen planes. I was told he (Lie-Nelsen) was too hard to work with. Then when I was in Albuquerque a couple of weeks ago I went to a wood supply place with a friend and the owner of the store used to work at Woodcraft Supply before they closed in ABQ. He told me that Lie-Nelsen wasn't willing to compromise his quality to speed up manufacturer of his planes to meet the needs of Woodcraft. So he is only supplying his planes through his website now.

IMHO, Lie-Nelsen has the best affordable "high end" planes made today.

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:43 am
by JPG
WmZiggy wrote:I thought of a PS here. I have both Lie-Nelsen and Veritas (although not in a 62 style plane). Both, as Terry says are superior to the new Stanleys. There is also a new comer to the market carried by Woodcraft by WoodRiver.

http://www.woodcraft.com/search2/search.aspx?query=woodriver

When I was at Woodcraft in November I asked why they dumped their Lie-Nelsen planes. I was told he (Lie-Nelsen) was too hard to work with. Then when I was in Albuquerque a couple of weeks ago I went to a wood supply place with a friend and the owner of the store used to work at Woodcraft Supply before they closed in ABQ. He told me that Lie-Nelsen wasn't willing to compromise his quality to speed up manufacturer of his planes to meet the needs of Woodcraft. So he is only supplying his planes through his website now.

IMHO, Lie-Nelsen has the best affordable "high end" planes made today.
Eliminating the 'middle' man!:cool:

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:32 pm
by terrydowning
Lie-Nielsen tools are all made in Maine, USA and I believe all USA materials.

The wood River are Chinese Manufacture
If this makes any difference to you.

I don't think Wood River is offering a low angle model yet. Instead they are selling the Stanley SW 62.

I have heard good things about the wood river line up.

Both the Lie-Nielsen and Wood River Bench Planes (Not the Low Angles) are modeled after the Stanley Bedrock line of planes but neither are exact copies.

Currently my budget prevents me from purchasing either, but If I were to purchase a new hand plane (Rather than a vintage) I would most likely hold out and go with the LN, followed by Veritas (which has distinct design differences/Improvements?). I like supporting US business and manufacturing and the entire LN line up are heirloom quality tools.

Veritas is Canadian I believe (So ate least North American)

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:56 pm
by WmZiggy
Right on all counts. I didn't know that WoodRiver was Chinese. Thanks for the insight. I think it does make a difference.

I have a Veritas shoulder plane and I think the design is innovative. http://www.veritastools.com/products/Page.aspx?p=94

It is really comfortable to hold and very precisely machined.

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:20 pm
by farley
Jerry
check Rick (manager)over at:

Woodworkers Source
3441 S Palo Verde Rd, Tucson, AZ 85713
(520) 745-8301

he used to own a cutting board business that did orders out of Phoenix and Tucson.

Tell him you know John from the Red Cross, and he probably won't hang up on you.