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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:14 pm
by JPG
benush26 wrote:So now I'm REALLY confused!
Where in the instructions does it say that the cylinder should be in the vertical position when disconnecting it? Installing and testing the fit, yes, but not anywhere else do I read that it needs to be vertical when removing one end?
I've only once removed it to test out the double tilt, but I removed the slip collar (mine doesn't need the small screwdriver to pry it off), raised the headstock in double tilt then returned it and reconnected the cylinder.
If it needs to be in the vertical mode, then would the procedure to use double tilt be
1. Raise the SS to drill press mode
2. Disconnect the rod end of the cylinder
3. Lower from drill press mode (without lift assist)
4. Adjust table and headstock position for router / shaper
5. Lift in to double tilt (router / shaper) and tighten the locking knob
When finished
6.Loosen the locking knob and return headstock to horizontal
7. Reposition headstock and table (or not)
8. Raise into drill press mode (without lift assist)
9. Hook up the cylinder
10. Lower from drill press position with lift assist
Because if that is the procedure, I've bypassed that when reading. Which is entirely possible,
Be well,
Ben
So if as has been asserted, taking it off in horizontal position is hazardous this has been a good thing to discuss. I have to assume at this point that when it is started towards the vertical position
something releases the cylinder to extend.
I would be leery of its 'releasing' when disconnecting it
Remember Nick's demo of a 'rising coffin'?
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:19 pm
by SDSSmith
benush26 wrote:So now I'm REALLY confused!
Where in the instructions does it say that the cylinder should be in the vertical position when disconnecting it? Installing and testing the fit, yes, but not anywhere else do I read that it needs to be vertical when removing one end?
I've only once removed it to test out the double tilt, but I removed the slip collar (mine doesn't need the small screwdriver to pry it off), raised the headstock in double tilt then returned it and reconnected the cylinder.
If it needs to be in the vertical mode, then would the procedure to use double tilt be
1. Raise the SS to drill press mode
2. Disconnect the rod end of the cylinder
3. Lower from drill press mode (without lift assist)
4. Adjust table and headstock position for router / shaper
5. Lift in to double tilt (router / shaper) and tighten the locking knob
When finished
6.Loosen the locking knob and return headstock to horizontal
7. Reposition headstock and table (or not)
8. Raise into drill press mode (without lift assist)
9. Hook up the cylinder
10. Lower from drill press position with lift assist
Because if that is the procedure, I've bypassed that when reading. Which is entirely possible,
Be well,
Ben
That is the procedure I would use. I am not sure that the procedure is written down, but common sense (safety and practicality) would support your approach.
For those who want to know,
here are the basic lift assist instructions.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:18 am
by benush26
Okay. I guess have a new procedure. Honestly never gave the piston rod becoming a quick moving, short range jabbing device any thought.
I did look at Doug Reid's video on the double tilt and though he does not show disconnecting the lift assist, he does have it in the drill press mode before switching to the double tilt so even I can presume it was there to disconnect the rod.
At least I can move the headstock to the side where lack of strength is not such a big deal.
With the increased RPM and oomph of the PP I am planning on shaping being a fun thing.
Thanks for the warning and help!
Be well,
Ben
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:36 am
by JPG
SDSSmith wrote:That is the procedure I would use. I am not sure that the procedure is written down, but common sense (safety and practicality) would support your approach.
For those who want to know,
here are the basic lift assist instructions.
I did not find where the instruction mentioned the
need to be vertical when disconnecting.
Is it perhaps in the dual tilt/Mark 7 instructions?
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:52 pm
by keakap
JPG40504 wrote:.So now I'm REALLY confused!
Once I discovered that installing, aligning and adjusting the Lift Assist, then removing it for a plethora of alternate activities then reinstalling (etc.) it again, was more painful, annoying and back-breaking than not employing it at all, I have found the perfect solution to the PowerPro- Double Tilt- Lift Assist Accessory:
most of its parts are now doing an exemplary job of holding down a shelf in my garage.
