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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 12:16 pm
by JPG
When attaching to the quill shaft, I wiggle the
wrench back and forth while tightening. This finds the flat spot. The arbor(or whatever) moves more easily than the shaft etc.
For set screws I have been grinding off the cup point thus making them flat point. The ss tool kit will hold the screw in position against a sanding disk laying flat against the table and against the miter gauge.
I do not recall throwing any away. I lose them all to easily by dropping.
As for Steve, realize his set screws are a size bigger(3/8-16?) as is his wrench(3/16).
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 12:33 pm
by dusty
JPG40504 wrote:
As for Steve, r
ealize his set screws are a size bigger(3/8-16?) as is his wrench(3/16).
I don't need to know that and I assume that those people (10E owners I guess) who do need to know already know.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 12:44 pm
by JPG
dusty wrote:I don't need to know that and I assume that those people (10E owners I guess) who do need to know already know.
So how about the rest of the world?;)
Point being the bigger screws tightened with a larger wrench will naturally have less of a tendency to come loose.
I have not and will never state that I do not have a need to know anything.
I may find new info disgusting or worse, but do not think I need to be ignorant of same.
Neither do I consider it appropriate to keep others in ignorance by failing to lead them to light!
So lighten up Dusty.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 1:05 pm
by dusty
JPG40504 wrote:So how about the rest of the world?]
Point being the bigger screws tightened with a larger wrench will naturally have less of a tendency to come loose.
I have not and will never state that I do not have a need to know anything.
I may find new info disgusting or worse, but do not think I need to be ignorant of same.
Neither do I consider it appropriate to keep others in ignorance by failing to lead them to light!
So lighten up Dusty.
You do a pretty good job of taking care of the "rest of the world". It is all that I can do well to take care of myself and my own needs.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 1:11 pm
by SDSSmith
JPG40504 wrote:When attaching to the quill shaft, I wiggle the
wrench back and forth while tightening. This finds the flat spot. The arbor(or whatever) moves more easily than the shaft etc.
For set screws I have been grinding off the cup point thus making them flat point. The ss tool kit will hold the screw in position against a sanding disk laying flat against the table and against the miter gauge.
I do not recall throwing any away. I lose them all to easily by dropping.
As for Steve, realize his set screws are a size bigger(3/8-16?) as is his wrench(3/16).
Actually, many of the arbors (1/2" and 5/8") originally made for the model 10 use a smaller set screw than the 5/16" set screws found on the Mark V accessories and utilize a 1/8" allen wrench to tighten. The model 10 drill chuck uses a larger set screw than its Mark V counterpart.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 1:45 pm
by gr8mesquite
In response to some questions, I bought a box of set screws from SS some time back. I put a new one in yesterday...appeared to be cupped.
I am centering on the flat, and I've re-dressed the flat with a fine/medium file.
I am tightening aggressively, but all this to no avail. After a bit, I get play in the chuck.
I wondering if I should look for knurled cup points somewhere.
Thanks
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 2:04 pm
by beeg
gr8mesquite wrote:In response to some questions, I bought a box of set screws from SS some time back. I put a new one in yesterday...appeared to be cupped.
I thought that per Dusty's listing it should be as follows.
"Saw Arbor 319 222458 5/16"-18x1/4" Black Oxide Alloy Steel Flat Point Socket Set Screw"
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 3:24 pm
by gr8mesquite
OK...I'll look for one of those.
Loose Saw Arbor (Spindle) Set Screws
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 3:35 pm
by dusty
beeg wrote:I thought that per Dusty's listing it should be as follows.
"Saw Arbor 319 222458 5/16"-18x1/4" Black Oxide Alloy Steel Flat Point Socket Set Screw"
Saw Arbor (319), the Shopsmith parts lists call for part number 222458 (set screw 1/4" long).
Drill Chuck (299), the Shopsmith parts list calls for part number 222460 (set screw 3/8" long).
The Help Kit supplies 20ea of one type and 6ea of the other and does not tell where to use them or identify the point type.
I prepared and published on this forum a list, a long time ago, that based on an inspection of my equipment identified the set screws with regard to point type. I believe that both of these set screw part numbers are for flat set screws(differing only in length).
What is in the Help Kit?
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 6:40 pm
by Mike907
These posts made me curious, so I went and checked all of my saw arbors (8) and drill chucks (2), and all set screws are flat point and match Dusty's list. The set screws in the two 5/8" saw arbors are 3/8" long and have what looks to be flat brass tips. I wasn't able to find a part number for those set screws.
Mike
