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I have a Nook HD+, mainly for reading e-books. I have Woodcraft and Japanese Woodworker catalogs sent to it on a monthly basis. It does help with e-mail as well. However, I still like to use my laptop when typing. I do have a screen protector on it as well. Just finished a biography on General Eisenhower. I plan on taking it with me when my bride and I fly to Oregon and Washington State for vacation in a couple of weeks.
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I seem to be having some connection problems with the wifi. I have a vizio router and it is right in the same room with the tablet and I'm seeing a lot of the following messages

No Network Connections
Network Unavailable

Is that something that these are prone to or is it "my" problem. I have other devises that are wireless like the TV and the Blu-ray player and a laptop etc(none of them are active at this time) and they don't seem to indicate problems. This happen a lot when I trying to get apps from the Samsung Apps app.

It seems to do OK doing updates as there is a good deal of activity happen with them.

Ed

reible wrote:I seem to be having some connection problems with the wifi. I have a vizio router and it is right in the same room with the tablet and I'm seeing a lot of the following messages

No Network Connections
Network Unavailable

Is that something that these are prone to or is it "my" problem. I have other devises that are wireless like the TV and the Blu-ray player and a laptop etc(none of them are active at this time) and they don't seem to indicate problems. This happen a lot when I trying to get apps from the Samsung Apps app.

It seems to do OK doing updates as there is a good deal of activity happen with them.

Ed

2.4 Ghz? Wireless phones and microwave ovens can disrupt. Also which channels are being used or are they auto selecting? A,B,N,....?

The router supplies 5GHz as well as the more common 2.4, I'm on the 5 which connects at a higher rate then the 2.4.

Ed

JPG40504 wrote:2.4 Ghz? Wireless phones and microwave ovens can disrupt. Also which channels are being used or are they auto selecting? A,B,N,....?

Dropbox like any application that puts your data on the internet for storage puts you at higher risk of getting it compromised. Yahoo announced just yesterday that they have another 1 billion accounts hacked back in 2013 and it took them 3 years to find out and own up to it. Dropbox is also likely hacked but just doesn't know it yet or is willing to admit it.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/blakemontgomer ... .jrEDbbEVK

Also, the Democratic National Committee is now crying foul because they were hacked during the election and didn't know it even after the FBI spent months trying to inform them and the DNC ignored the warnings, probably because they didn't want to admit that they didn't know anything about security.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-elec ... cials-say/

NOTHING stored on the internet is secure. If you choose to store your files on the cloud like Dropbox, expect it to be shared with any hacker who wants it.

Imho
Tablets are the future. Apps are the future.
Admittedly there is a huge learning curve. I say learning curve but it is really an attitude or position adjustment.

I have worked on PC extensively since they came out ( retired from IBM) so the whole concept of PC, DOS, Windows, files, and such were ground into me.

When I first got an IPAD for my wife I played with it dismissed it and got back to what I knew.
My wife was not a big fan and I really considered simply selling it and moving on.

Out of boredom one day I picked up the IPad and started to play with it. I frustrated myself trying to make it a PC. I resisted Apps and refused to download any App. Where were my files and my data? I don't recall the exact break through but one day it dawned on me to stop resisting and go with the flow. Suddenly Apps were not longer the enemy no longer simple toys but they became functional programs that in most cases did what they were designed to do.

I learned about the cloud and how my data was protected. Is it fool proof no but in the grand scheme of things nothing really is. What I like is nothing is stored on my IPad other than apps and they come to me fully vetted assuring me there is no virus. My data is stored elsewhere and by the nature of the beast protected from viruses.

Can you get Malware yes but a simple erasure of browser history/cookies and a power off power on reset has removed every attempt to lock up my IPad by malware. Worst case since all the apps are kept on the App Store and all data in the cloud you do a complete reset of the iPad, simple restore of backed up IPad settings and reload of apps and you are up and running probably within 30 minutes. No programs to download and install, no drivers to find download install no program keys to find, none of the lengthly process.

I love my IPad even though it is technically my wife's. I use it almost exclusively. I have even used it to preach from instead of paper notes. My wife that does music in the church uses OnSong app to store and get music. OnSong allows her to do chord shifts and octave changes on the fly plus holds thousands of her songs and has access to CCLI song base and many others.

I have three software Bible programs installed which gives me access to thousands of theological books, papers and other works.

I do almost all my mail, forum, facebooking, messaging, reading, writing on the IPad. In three years I have never suffered a lost of data or the infamous blue screen of death.

For older people that want to surf the web and share socially with family and friends there is nothing better.

The only limitation I have found is ther is no good way to replace quickens check book. I still keep my check book on quicken on my PC with the actual data file on a thumb drive. That is only put into the machine when the internet connection is down. I am a tiny bit paranoid!

I am sold on tablets but more importantly I am sold on Apps. No messing around just use them and let them worry about data storage.

Ed in Tampa wrote:Imho
Tablets are the future. Apps are the future.
Admittedly there is a huge learning curve. I say learning curve but it is really an attitude or position adjustment.

I have worked on PC extensively since they came out ( retired from IBM) so the whole concept of PC, DOS, Windows, files, and such were ground into me.

When I first got an IPAD for my wife I played with it dismissed it and got back to what I knew.
My wife was not a big fan and I really considered simply selling it and moving on.

Out of boredom one day I picked up the IPad and started to play with it. I frustrated myself trying to make it a PC. I resisted Apps and refused to download any App. Where were my files and my data? I don't recall the exact break through but one day it dawned on me to stop resisting and go with the flow. Suddenly Apps were not longer the enemy no longer simple toys but they became functional programs that in most cases did what they were designed to do.

I learned about the cloud and how my data was protected. Is it fool proof no but in the grand scheme of things nothing really is. What I like is nothing is stored on my IPad other than apps and they come to me fully vetted assuring me there is no virus. My data is stored elsewhere and by the nature of the beast protected from viruses.

Can you get Malware yes but a simple erasure of browser history/cookies and a power off power on reset has removed every attempt to lock up my IPad by malware. Worst case since all the apps are kept on the App Store and all data in the cloud you do a complete reset of the iPad, simple restore of backed up IPad settings and reload of apps and you are up and running probably within 30 minutes. No programs to download and install, no drivers to find download install no program keys to find, none of the lengthly process.

I love my IPad even though it is technically my wife's. I use it almost exclusively. I have even used it to preach from instead of paper notes. My wife that does music in the church uses OnSong app to store and get music. OnSong allows her to do chord shifts and octave changes on the fly plus holds thousands of her songs and has access to CCLI song base and many others.

I have three software Bible programs installed which gives me access to thousands of theological books, papers and other works.

I do almost all my mail, forum, facebooking, messaging, reading, writing on the IPad. In three years I have never suffered a lost of data or the infamous blue screen of death.

For older people that want to surf the web and share socially with family and friends there is nothing better.

The only limitation I have found is ther is no good way to replace quickens check book. I still keep my check book on quicken on my PC with the actual data file on a thumb drive. That is only put into the machine when the internet connection is down. I am a tiny bit paranoid!

I am sold on tablets but more importantly I am sold on Apps. No messing around just use them and let them worry about data storage.

The thing about 'apps' is they are not a humongous do everything for everyone program. They do simple tasks well. Ok as long as what they do is what you want. They are good at what they do. Just do not expect to get out of the box.

I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab S which runs on Android. I like Android better than the apple OS. I also use Google Drive to store all my general files, works great in the shop following a set of plans, quick access to a calculator or reference material on about any issue is immediately available at my fingertip. That's biggest difference between tablets and PC's, they are data access machines, not necessarily processors of the data.

I also resisted the tablet thing for many years opting for a PC with which I was more familiar with and favored, I believed the tablets to be "toys". My wife was the driver to my purchasing a tablet, when we lived in Baltimore she found face book and was using it to keep in touch with grand kids and folks back home and was constantly calling me to come diagnose a problem she was having. Well I bought her an I-pad for valentines day, funny thing a computer illiterate person, she opened the box, pressed the start button and 3 minutes later was up and running, 15 minutes later she had on her own downloaded the face book app and was using it. Problem solved I could watch TV in peace. As indicated, for people who want to access the internet, send emails, shop, etc. tablets and smart phones are very useful tools.

Newportcycle makes the point that tablets are data access machines not data processor.
To a large degree I would agree. However my tablet is being used more and more for data processing. I have not used it to edit a movie or to write a book but it could do either.

Someone else said that apps do simple tasks. Actually they do simple and complex tasks and they do them well. I have a bank app that gives me all the info I need about my accounts, allows me to manage my accounts, and do all my banking without having to go to the bank.

I have both pages and Microsoft word all free to write almost anything I want. I have both numbers and excell again both free to do spreadsheets. I have PowerPoint and Keynote to put together presentations once again both were free.

Apps are programs that come to you with a installation processs that is nothing more than a download and possibly answer a few yes or no type questions. They can be downloaded at will over and over once you initially download them. They are then maintained flawlessly without the need to reboot seek a new driver or change file location.

As you can probably tell I think apps and the idea behind them are better than sliced bread.

I have apps that allow me to get and read books, PDF material, not only that but it manages and catalog them keeping them just a click away. I have all the PDF files that everyone builds for Shopsmith projects, catalogs, plans, info all automatically stored and indexed, even Dusty's Shopsmith fastener guide

All my photos safely stored and indexed and readily viewable. Plus using iCloud or google drive or any of the other cloud storage programs I can access nearly 40 years of data that I have created. I have nearly 30 years of sermons I wrote, 30 years of college and graduate level course lesson plans and illustration material that I have wrote. Three very powerful Bible software program with access to hundreds of reference material.

Plus I have my wife's shopping list.

Think about it on an object the size of a small sheet of paper and not much thicker than 30 sheets I have access to untold thousands of references, information, and data.

Access, yes. Hands on control, no. Indirect control, yes.

Possession, no.

Convenient, yes (until the cloud 'collapses').


To each their own.