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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:18 am
by garys
forrestb wrote:I guess I'm just a grumpy old man: I do not use and do not want to use 'social media.'
But I do wish you the best of outcomes.
Forrest
I'm a lot like you. This board is as far as I'm going with social media. From what I see of Facebook and Twitter, they are just a place for gossip, and I don't have time for that.
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:40 am
by dusty
garys wrote:I'm a lot like you. This board is as far as I'm going with social media. From what I see of Facebook and Twitter, they are just a place for gossip, and I don't have time for that.
If you are going to go on Facebook, you want to learn how to
use Facebook while at the same time
not allowing Facebook to use you.
This is hard to do because the people who developed and now manage Facebook understand very well what makes us all tick. We are curious and snoopy creatures.
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:17 am
by BuckeyeDennis
dusty wrote:If you are going to go on Facebook, you want to learn how to use Facebook while at the same time not allowing Facebook to use you.
This is hard to do because the people who developed and now manage Facebook understand very well what makes us all tick. We are curious and snoopy creatures.
Please enlighten me on how to do that! At least twice in the past year, a desire to access some content available only on Facebook has motivated me to sign up. Despite all the stories of aggressive privacy invasion, I started the process, on the theory that account settings could be configured to minimize that. But each time I bailed out, as it looked like more trouble than it was worth.
I don't have anything in particular to hide .. it just creeps me out that a big commercial database is working hard to record as many details of my life and interests as possible. By linking to his Facebook account, my brother's iPad correctly identified almost all of the relatives in a family-reunion photo. Amazingly, it even ID'd a picture of my 20-something niece hanging on the wall, taken when she was about 6 years old.
Even George Orwell probably never imagined such technology. Meanwhile, my wife and kids keep me posted on any interesting family news.
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:36 am
by JPG
BuckeyeDennis wrote:Please enlighten me on how to do that! At least twice in the past year, a desire to access some content available only on Facebook has motivated me to sign up. Despite all the stories of aggressive privacy invasion, I started the process, on the theory that account settings could be configured to minimize that. But each time I bailed out, as it looked like more trouble than it was worth.
I don't have anything in particular to hide .. it just creeps me out that a big commercial database is working hard to record as many details of my life and interests as possible. By linking to his Facebook account, my brother's iPad correctly identified almost all of the relatives in a family-reunion photo. Amazingly, it even ID'd a picture of my 20-something niece hanging on the wall, taken when she was about 6 years old.
Even George Orwell probably never imagined such technology. Meanwhile, my wife and kids keep me posted on any interesting family news.
That IS scary!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:44 am
by dusty
JPG40504 wrote:That IS scary!!!!!!!!!!
The names on the faces in those family photos were not put there by some facial recognition process at Facebook.
Someone close to the family "tagged" those images with the names you see. There is nothing creepy about that. When it happens to me, I am often thankful otherwise I might have known the individuals name.
My children (no longer children) and the grand children are all social animals. On a regular basis they post photos taken at parties or other social gatherings. Often these are photos of kids they grew up with and have remained in contact with. The names on the photos often identify people we all knew back then but that I would no longer recognize. The tags are really appreciated.
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:41 am
by garys
dusty wrote:If you are going to go on Facebook, you want to learn how to use Facebook while at the same time not allowing Facebook to use you.
Facebook is for people who want it. I don't want it and have no use for it, so it can't use me because I've never been there. I'm not a person who jumps on every fad that comes along. I go my own way until I find something useful. Facebook doesn't interest me, so I'm not going there.
I'm still one of the holdouts who doesn't have a cellphone. Again, I don't want one and don't have a use for one, so why throw money away having one?
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:46 am
by Ed in Tampa
BuckeyeDennis wrote:Please enlighten me on how to do that! At least twice in the past year, a desire to access some content available only on Facebook has motivated me to sign up. Despite all the stories of aggressive privacy invasion, I started the process, on the theory that account settings could be configured to minimize that. But each time I bailed out, as it looked like more trouble than it was worth.
I don't have anything in particular to hide .. it just creeps me out that a big commercial database is working hard to record as many details of my life and interests as possible. By linking to his Facebook account, my brother's iPad correctly identified almost all of the relatives in a family-reunion photo. Amazingly, it even ID'd a picture of my 20-something niece hanging on the wall, taken when she was about 6 years old.
Even George Orwell probably never imagined such technology. Meanwhile, my wife and kids keep me posted on any interesting family news.
You don't know how invasive it is. I had a friend prove this to me. He used my wife's info on facebook, basically her name. And within one day had pictures of both of us, copies of our drivers license, picture of our house, whether we had a history of paying our property taxes or not, how much they were, our phone number, our children's names, where they live how many children do they have, all of our employment, where we shop, what credit cards we carry and our cars and car licenses, our parents name and their status whether living or deceased. All of our ages and marriage licenses. He was able to check to see if there were any criminal records, driving violations and accidents attributed to any of us.
He assured me he could get more info like my grandparents, places of birth, and so forth. So you tell me what isn't on the internet all traced back to Social Media like the highly invasive Face Book.
No to FaceBook and don't even talk about Google+. Those guys know how much change you have in your pocket.
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:32 am
by dusty
garys wrote:Facebook is for people who want it. I don't want it and have no use for it, so it can't use me because I've never been there. I'm not a person who jumps on every fad that comes along. I go my own way until I find something useful. Facebook doesn't interest me, so I'm not going there.
I'm still one of the holdouts who doesn't have a cellphone. Again, I don't want one and don't have a use for one, so why throw money away having one?
It must be something in the water there in ND. My Dad, who was from Mandan, was just like that.
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:47 am
by JPG
dusty wrote:It must be something in the water there in ND. My Dad, who was from Mandan, was just like that.
I would call it lack of a lemming gene!
Also independent thinking.
And something I respect and admire.

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:56 am
by farley
I don't face book or twitter, but I am older. SS wants/needs to get into the youth more as us old folks are not the future.
I think it's a good thing for SS.
I won't join, but look at the numbers of FB people and how every veterinary, grocery store or doctor wants you to "like them" on FB. It's the future.