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Ed in Tampa wrote:

JPG wrote:Those SA at Micropsoft ASSume that tapping is the only way to go. I find it a PITA that my touching the surface to make a pointer move is interpreted as a 'tap'. Causes all sorts of unwanted actions etc.

Yes a new driver was installed. No it has no way to kill the tap function.

An attempt to roll back the driver has not been successful. Somewhere Windows still thinks the touchpad is different from what W7 thought it was.

Exactly! To me this is one area PC's fall short of Apple. The Apple touch pad had always been superior to what pc manufactures try to peddle to PC buyers.

This one of mine especially. Capacitive sensing of all things!

garys wrote:What brand and model is your laptop? What driver was installed? None of the earlier versions of Windows ever found the right drivers by themselves, so there is no reason to expect Windows 10 to do any better. Windows will often default to some generic Microsoft driver that works only half way.
All my computers are HP. Every time I have ever installed Windows, Microsoft failed to find any of the specific HP drivers needed to make things work right. I have to go to HP support for my model and download the drivers and install them manually. Then, things work.
Microsoft writes an operating system, and doesn't supply the correct drivers. Windows does a miserable job of finding the drivers you need. You have to be smarter than Microsoft and find them yourself and then install them.

Actually Microsoft did go to the manufactures website during the windows 10 install process. And it got a driver for a multitouch key pad instead of the one installed on the actual machine.
This is a Lenovo G560 with an Élan touchpad. Also the driver seemed to install twice or at least I ended up with two touchpad drivers and could not communicate with either.
I had to plug in a mouse to get enough control to back windows 10 off. Then I found that there were others with the same problem. Lenono the last time I looked does not address the situation. I'm on Windows 7 and with the exception of not being able to run Edge I see no advantage to Windows 10. I will probably stay on Windows 7 until it no longer works or I buy a new machine. Every day Apple keeps looking better.

Ed in Tampa wrote:

garys wrote:What brand and model is your laptop? What driver was installed? None of the earlier versions of Windows ever found the right drivers by themselves, so there is no reason to expect Windows 10 to do any better. Windows will often default to some generic Microsoft driver that works only half way.
All my computers are HP. Every time I have ever installed Windows, Microsoft failed to find any of the specific HP drivers needed to make things work right. I have to go to HP support for my model and download the drivers and install them manually. Then, things work.
Microsoft writes an operating system, and doesn't supply the correct drivers. Windows does a miserable job of finding the drivers you need. You have to be smarter than Microsoft and find them yourself and then install them.

Actually Microsoft did go to the manufactures website during the windows 10 install process. And it got a driver for a multitouch key pad instead of the one installed on the actual machine.
This is a Lenovo G560 with an Élan touchpad. Also the driver seemed to install twice or at least I ended up with two touchpad drivers and could not communicate with either.
I had to plug in a mouse to get enough control to back windows 10 off. Then I found that there were others with the same problem. Lenono the last time I looked does not address the situation. I'm on Windows 7 and with the exception of not being able to run Edge I see no advantage to Windows 10. I will probably stay on Windows 7 until it no longer works or I buy a new machine. Every day Apple keeps looking better.

FWIW, my TOSHIBA laptop has an ELAN touchpad. Got a driver dated 7/1/15 that seems aok with W10.

Question in my mind is: Why in Tarnation would a touchpad interface change at this late date?

My Son has the new I-Phone. He showed me (but I can't remember) that some operations on that phone are done with a MULTI-FINGER touch.

Does multi-finger touch do anything exciting with a Windows 10 pad?

JPG wrote:
Question in my mind is: Why in Tarnation would a touchpad interface change at this late date?

The touchpad interface didn't change. The operating system did. Windows 10 is so new that all the specific drivers aren't ready yet. Windows 7 already had a supported driver from the manufacturer while Windows 10 is just getting them. This is why you don't want to be on the leading edge trying new software. It will get better after it is around a while and the bugs get addressed, and the hardware gets better support.

Patience will save you a lot of hassle. Let other people have the frustration while you wait.