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Re: Sticking Quill
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:51 am
by dusty
rjent wrote:BuckeyeDennis wrote:There might be another way. How about turning it into a wall-mount drill press? I haven't seen it done with a Mark V, but if you can convert one into a
Shop Deputy, why not a wall-mount drill press?
Does anyone know how the Shop Deputy is fastened to the bench? Judging from the photo of the conversion kit, it appears that a few lag screws and fender washers will do the trick.
I like it Dennis!
Looking at the 150 dollar "kit" of 2 short way tubes and some lags and washers (like you point out), it has to be fairly simple to mount. Maybe drill holes for the lags in the bases? I have room for my 500, but a wall mounted DP would be the berries .....

REALLY. $150 for a 52" Way Tube (aka 1 1/2" pipe) and some lag screws. REALLY
https://www.platt.com/platt-electric-su ... zpid=65820
Re: Sticking Quill
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:45 pm
by rjent
dusty wrote:rjent wrote:BuckeyeDennis wrote:There might be another way. How about turning it into a wall-mount drill press? I haven't seen it done with a Mark V, but if you can convert one into a
Shop Deputy, why not a wall-mount drill press?
Does anyone know how the Shop Deputy is fastened to the bench? Judging from the photo of the conversion kit, it appears that a few lag screws and fender washers will do the trick.
I like it Dennis!
Looking at the 150 dollar "kit" of 2 short way tubes and some lags and washers (like you point out), it has to be fairly simple to mount. Maybe drill holes for the lags in the bases? I have room for my 500, but a wall mounted DP would be the berries .....

REALLY. $150 for a 52" Way Tube (aka 1 1/2" pipe) and some lag screws. REALLY
https://www.platt.com/platt-electric-su ... zpid=65820
Wow Dusty! Is that what they are really using? Can we verify that? I don't mind the mothership making a profit, but that seems excessive if that is what they are using ......

Re: Sticking Quill
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:17 pm
by beeg
No that's KNOT what their using. That electrical conduit is Galvanized Steel, hot dipped at that. Also doesn't say what the wall thickness is.
Re: Sticking Quill
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:34 pm
by JPG
ChrisNeilan wrote:I think JPG was referring to using a hacksaw as your tool of choice in cutting the tubes. Use a sawsall or circular saw with a metal cutting blade, otherwise it may be a multi weekend project!
Indeed that be the case.
I think a block(shaped to fit the interior of the end castings) attached to the wall, then use the existing leg mounting holes. Nothing 'modified'.

Re: Sticking Quill
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:48 pm
by rjent
beeg wrote:No that's KNOT what their using. That electrical conduit is Galvanized Steel, hot dipped at that. Also doesn't say what the wall thickness is.
Thanks for the clarification Bob ... I thought that was a little weak.
Do you know what the spec is? Is it available. My point if way tube material is available to us, is that we could just be creating "replacement" custom way tubes instead of cutting the SS factory ones ....

Re: Sticking Quill
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:07 pm
by jsburger
rjent wrote:beeg wrote:No that's KNOT what their using. That electrical conduit is Galvanized Steel, hot dipped at that. Also doesn't say what the wall thickness is.
Thanks for the clarification Bob ... I thought that was a little weak.
Do you know what the spec is? Is it available. My point if way tube material is available to us, is that we could just be creating "replacement" custom way tubes instead of cutting the SS factory ones ....

I don't know about MK V way tubes but 10ER tubes were also centerless ground so they were not just simple stock tubing.
Re: Sticking Quill
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:37 pm
by rjent
jsburger wrote:rjent wrote:beeg wrote:No that's KNOT what their using. That electrical conduit is Galvanized Steel, hot dipped at that. Also doesn't say what the wall thickness is.
Thanks for the clarification Bob ... I thought that was a little weak.
Do you know what the spec is? Is it available. My point if way tube material is available to us, is that we could just be creating "replacement" custom way tubes instead of cutting the SS factory ones ....

I don't know about MK V way tubes but 10ER tubes were also centerless ground so they were not just simple stock tubing.
Exactly, but 10ER tubes are unique/superior to the rest of the SS line. I have yet to find a source or find anyone who actually knows where this stock comes from. I know that SS is not making it themselves, so what is the source?
Re: Sticking Quill
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:58 pm
by jsburger
jsburger wrote:rjent wrote:beeg wrote:No that's KNOT what their using. That electrical conduit is Galvanized Steel, hot dipped at that. Also doesn't say what the wall thickness is.
Thanks for the clarification Bob ... I thought that was a little weak.
Do you know what the spec is? Is it available. My point if way tube material is available to us, is that we could just be creating "replacement" custom way tubes instead of cutting the SS factory ones ....

I don't know about MK V way tubes but 10ER tubes were also centerless ground so they were not just simple stock tubing.
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Exactly, but 10ER tubes are unique/superior to the rest of the SS line. I have yet to find a source or find anyone who actually knows where this stock comes from. I know that SS is not making it themselves, so what is the source?[/quote]"
Yup, I am sure some of you have seen the Magna Ad that shows the front wheels of a 1940 something sedan sitting on the 10ER way tubes.
Good question. Proprietary information?

I didn't think the MK V way tubes were centerless ground just by the way they look (plated?) but I was not sure. Are the MK V way tubes plated? They look like it. 10ER tubes are not.
The
ONLY similarity between 1 1/2" galvanized EMT conduit and SS tubes is the outside diameter.
Re: Sticking Quill
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:38 pm
by JPG
jsburger wrote:
The ONLY similarity between 1 1/2" galvanized EMT conduit and SS tubes is the outside diameter.
Exactly! (+- /.010)
Thin? Absolutely.
Shorty length, likely 'adequate'.
Clamps will crush them if not 'plugged'.
Bench tubes are likely in tension while horizontal.
In vertical, it does not matter.
I am not suggesting it is a suitable 'replacement', but rather a worst case alternative.
For way tubes, forget it, Although I
have seen a 10ER with them. The source of my knowing they may work for bench tubes.

Re: Sticking Quill
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:53 pm
by rjent
JPG wrote:jsburger wrote:
The ONLY similarity between 1 1/2" galvanized EMT conduit and SS tubes is the outside diameter.
Exactly! (+- /.010)
Thin? Absolutely.
Shorty length, likely 'adequate'.
Clamps will crush them if not 'plugged'.
Bench tubes are likely in tension while horizontal.
In vertical, it does not matter.
I am not suggesting it is a suitable 'replacement', but rather a worst case alternative.
For way tubes, forget it, Although I
have seen a 10ER with them. The source of my knowing they may work for bench tubes.

But the question oh grand poopaa, is what is the source of the Mark V/7 way tubes ..... These things aren't grown out of the ground, someone makes them ....
