How many use stand alone machines too?

[ibskot]

I think i may park the TS for a bit and only use the SS and see how it goes. Thanks for all the responses.

[Beave2012]

I only have a 520 and most of the accessories for SS. I recently got an extra 500 as a stand alone drill press. Love it. I also have a stand alone jointer, we'll a SS one on a stand, a stand alone planer, and stand alone router table.

I only want a cabinet table saw. A contractor saw doesn't speak to me. I would love a 36" or 52" cabinet saw, just because adjusting the blade height and tables at the same time on the SS does get to me. A contractor saw is roughly the same SS the 520 table but the 520 has way better features. Not to mention A way better fence.

So for me, it's my SS or a cabinet saw

[BuckeyeDennis]

BuckeyeDennis...pics?

That's a whole new thread, once I get it all set up. I finally got the big machines moved from my garage into my basement workshop last month, but they are still in various stages of disassembly. There's just barely enough room right now for me to use the 520!

But the attached PDF shows how everything will fit when I'm done setting up. I used Visio to mock up the equipment in 2D, so I can "virtually" shuffle stuff around and try different layouts. You'll see that a lot of machines share working volumes, and that the woodworking bench doubles as an outfeed table for the cabinet saw. I didn't have to worry about space for crosscutting long boards on the cabinet saw, as the RAS's will handle that chore.

And everything is on casters, should I need to shuffle things around for a particular job.

[ibskot]

I only want a cabinet table saw. A contractor saw doesn't speak to me. I would love a 36" or 52" cabinet saw, just because adjusting the blade height and tables at the same time on the SS does get to me. A contractor saw is roughly the same SS the 520 table but the 520 has way better features. Not to mention A way better fence.

So for me, it's my SS or a cabinet saw

Have you ever used a Bosch or Ridgid jobsite saw? My ridgid fence was and is dead on right out of the box. Actually to me, the two fences are very similar. My only complaint on the TS is more space needed...and I'd prefer a cast iron table but that's a different animal.

[Beave2012]

I only want a cabinet table saw. A contractor saw doesn't speak to me. I would love a 36" or 52" cabinet saw, just because adjusting the blade height and tables at the same time on the SS does get to me. A contractor saw is roughly the same SS the 520 table but the 520 has way better features. Not to mention A way better fence.

So for me, it's my SS or a cabinet saw

Have you ever used a Bosch or Ridgid jobsite saw? My ridgid fence was and is dead on right out of the box. Actually to me, the two fences are very similar. My only complaint on the TS is more space needed...and I'd prefer a cast iron table but that's a different animal.

My old ts was terrible. Gave it away when u got the shopsmith. I bet there are better table saws, but the only ts I will buy over the shopsmith is a sawssawstop. Mainly for a large table surface and an "insurance" policy. Being 32 at the moment I figure that investment has a very long term insurance policy for my fingers. Already lost one finger tip on the army, would like to keep the rest. Even if I am careful, which I am.

[berry]

All I have is my single 1982 SS and a chop saw. No room for a TS in my little world.

[Beave2012]

All I have is my single 1982 SS and a chop saw. No room for a TS in my little world.

One day I will get a chop saw... but for now, SS and circular saw seem to work, but that would be so nice for rough size cuts.

[tdorey]

I currently have a SS with BS, Jointer, Bosch Chop Saw, Dewalt Plainer. I have only had the SS for 6 months. Still thinking about getting a dedicated TS. Its not about the ability of the SS TS< its more about the frustration changing between TS and other functions.

I can see why some of you have more than one SS, While doing projects there is a part of me that says, "if I do that I have to take off the table Saw Blade, Remove floating table etc etc. So I end up doing something a different way. So the change over is part of my decision process.

[JPG]

I currently have a SS with BS, Jointer, Bosch Chop Saw, Dewalt Plainer. I have only had the SS for 6 months. Still thinking about getting a dedicated TS. Its not about the ability of the SS TS< its more about the frustration changing between TS and other functions.

I can see why some of you have more than one SS, While doing projects there is a part of me that says, "if I do that I have to take off the table Saw Blade, Remove floating table etc etc. So I end up doing something a different way. So the change over is part of my decision process.

Not 'recommended', but, not fiddling with the saw blade guard greatly reduces the time and effort.(says the 'one' who has never had a saw guard for a half century). Ditto the floating tables and tubes(says the mark 5 goldie user).

With a SS, the changeover process needs to be part of the 'plan' so as to minimize it or at least have them not affect the final result.

Yes having more than one is 'convenient', but far more meaningful is that any one can be set up as any of the rest as needed. With > 1 saw(etc.), different setups can occur simultaneously.

Yes they require, yet allow, a different mind set.

[tdorey]

I currently have a SS with BS, Jointer, Bosch Chop Saw, Dewalt Plainer. I have only had the SS for 6 months. Still thinking about getting a dedicated TS. Its not about the ability of the SS TS< its more about the frustration changing between TS and other functions.

I can see why some of you have more than one SS, While doing projects there is a part of me that says, "if I do that I have to take off the table Saw Blade, Remove floating table etc etc. So I end up doing something a different way. So the change over is part of my decision process.

Not 'recommended', but, not fiddling with the saw blade guard greatly reduces the time and effort.(says the 'one' who has never had a saw guard for a half century). Ditto the floating tables and tubes(says the mark 5 goldie user).

With a SS, the changeover process needs to be part of the 'plan' so as to minimize it or at least have them not affect the final result.

Yes having more than one is 'convenient', but far more meaningful is that any one can be set up as any of the rest as needed. With > 1 saw(etc.), different setups can occur simultaneously.

Yes they require, yet allow, a different mind set.

I know, I'm trying!

Is there a product feedback area of this forum? I think Shopsmith as a company should be listening to customers and see the jigs and complaints people have to improve the product. This forum is like a free Research and Development.

On a different topic, has anyone thought about a ratcheting system for the headstock and carriage? One of my frustrations is "sliding" the headstock and carriage back and forth along my well waxed tubes. They get stuck, I have to bend down, push form a different angle etc. It would be a great improvement to have them on a ratchet with a wheel adjust left to right. yes, some cost to have tubes geared etc, but it would really improve that experience of moving things out of the way, could all be down with out having to bend down.