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I think 10³ ft² has a lot to do with low $.

My 'rec' room is larger!

JPG wrote:I think 10³ ft² has a lot to do with low $.

My 'rec' room is larger!

I am happy for you!

My dad cured me of big houses. One of the farms had a living room of 1200 sq ft. Impressed the girls, but was always cold. We are snug as a bug in our little cottage and the world be damned .....

Did you put a vapor barrier in the inside (room side) of the foam?

rjent,
what is the altitude of Truth and C?

I would be interested in how the window covers are made and installed. New windows are manufactured so that you do not need a storm window. I thought about putting foam insulation on the outside of my house when I re-side. Not having to mess with drywall permits and inspections are a big motivation in going outside for additional insulation.

Brenda

Chuck, no we didn't use a vapor barrier. The construction is Concrete block (not cinder block) that was sluff off concrete when our dam was built in 1916. Some enterprising individuals captured the concrete that was wasted when the railroad dumped their load (on a trestle over the dam because in 1916 there were no cement trucks yet .... ) and made concrete blocks out of them. There are many houses here in town built with them. I didn't want to trap moisture in the house as our "swampbox" air conditioners put a lot of humidity in the house when the outside is 10 percent. It has been up about 15 years now and no problems.

ER, we are just under a mile high (like denver) the airport here is 4900 feet, and it is over 12000 feet 20 miles away. The mountain passes at the continental divide is at 7000.

Thunderbird, after planing and sanding the exposed parts, I just rabbeted out the outside of a 2x4 on the 2 inch side where it would fit in the window frame leaving a step, and then it butts up against the metal frame of the window. I put a "foot" (2 triangle pieces holding a horizontal shelf) on the back that we can sandbag if needed, but we never have. There is a floating panel that slides into dados on the inside close to the room side. They look very nice and are working well. I have not insulated them but had planned to .....

So for every K ft, 3* temp drop, so at 5K 15*, but better solar when the sun shines!!!! Any Solar panels for juice or hot water?

ERLover wrote:So for every K ft, 3* temp drop, so at 5K 15*, but better solar when the sun shines!!!! Any Solar panels for juice or hot water?

Nope, not big on the "green" culture. Solar takes to long to recoup your money. We do use a demand electric hot water heater (wouldn't go back on that at all).

With that said, we drive a Ford Fusion Plug In Hybrid that drives around town on electricity (about 90 cents per 30 miles), and 60 plus MPG on long trips in Gas/hybrid mode. I am the last thing from a tree hugger, but the hybrid and plug in idea is one that has been a real joy to us both. I do have some toys that if lucky I get 9 MPG so I balances it out ....

ERLover wrote:Personally I think you are nuts or just bored and need projects. If you look at your real utility bills, and electricity cost if you have a frig it is cheap to run, and the heat in the transfer like a stove in the winter time is heat into your living area. I have done this for a living, and as a former utility gas and electric employee, insulation is the cheapest way to go, then tight windows, eliminate outside air infiltration. Turn off lights when you leave the area, even though that is a minimal, cut back on water heater temp, and if electric turn it off at the breaker till about 20 minutes b4 a shower, then turn it off after and do your dishes if by hand, if a dish washer leave it on till after they are done washing, then flip the breaker for the water heater off, you will still have warm water for hand and face washing, till your next shower. It works the same as turning your heat down at night and when you are gone, the Delta effect.

Personally, I take offense with your analogy of me. But because you are there and I am here, I can only respond to you on the forum. My electric bills are crazy expensive and our temps here have been far below zero, in recent years. As a matter of fact, just last year, during the polar vortex, we saw -30. My brother saw -38.

Furthermore, even the weather prognosticators stated, that a Polar Vortex, is extremely rare and we would not likely see another one, for years. Well, guess what, mother nature, made them look like IDIOTS, because we had two Polar Vortex, last year.

The winter before that, we had Snow Rollers and that was yet another blunder of the weather peeps.

So, take your insulting comments and stick them in your pipe and smoke them.

I recently have been playing with, the on/off scenario at my breaker board and I shall see where that lands me.

Just last winter I had an electric bill of $819 and that was for two months. Thankfully, I was awarded LIHEAP and it paid that bill.

So, please STOP the assuming BS, no one is an expert, including you, Oh High and Mighty!