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jsburger wrote:

Bruce wrote:If you have the 510/520 lower guard, after lowering the table onto the blade, loosen the front and rear thumb screws and slide the guard out until it closes the gap on the right side of the blade, then re-tighten the screws. In my experience, leaving a gap there lets a lot of dust escape.

Just for clarity, slide the guard IN to close the gap. I always open the guard all the way when changing blades. It makes it easier. I always close the guard as far as possible for the blade in use. However, if you leave the guard open all the way and lower the table first the guard will hit the table shroud and not allow the table to be lowered. I close the guard before lowering the table. Besides it is easier that way.

Yes, you are correct. I do as you said, but failed to include moving it left before lowering the table. I also don't leave any gap. Doing so makes more of a mess. There is plenty of air flow from above if you're using the standard insert. Perhaps if using a zero clearance insert you may want a small gap for better air flow.

Bruce wrote:If you have the 510/520 lower guard, after lowering the table onto the blade, loosen the front and rear thumb screws and slide the guard out until it closes the gap on the right side of the blade, then re-tighten the screws. In my experience, leaving a gap there lets a lot of dust escape.

This is what I do and by testing it is quite obvious that this is the best way to set up the lower guard. I have also added some extra hardware to my guard which did let me see some more improvement. ZCI also helps as does have dust collection on the top saw guard.

Someday I want to shoot a movie while cutting to study more but still have not done it. I have several more idea which I have prototyped using masking tape that looked promising.

So far I just catch what I can and clean up the rest. Everything points to blocking up more of the open areas between the table and dust collector but find the best way to do that and still keeping it simple and functional is the issue.

Ed

I have a broom...



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John can you send a pic of your upper saw guard hose set up please and any info on the aftermarket parts you mentioned? Thanks to all for your input. The bag was part of the issue but I'm still getting excessive dust out the bottom front. Tape over the adjustable slots has helped a bit but I still feel it's excessive, specially when it piles up on the tool shelf. This is the most frustrating thing on the SS. I'm still in total surprise that SS would one patient such a thing when it is so apparent its not efficient and two not have a fix for our issues. I had to modify the band saw with a second bottom port for the same thing. After all these years they should have it perfected by now if you ask me.

Being one who does not have a blade guard let alone a real time 'particle gatherer' I think all this consternation is ill founded when considering the intent of the beast.

Like Francis, I also have not only a broom but also a DC that can get it after the fact.


I would be interested in any creative ideas as to how to achieve nirvana and still retain the multifaceted tasks that this beast performs. Being fastidious was not a design parameter. Functionality and ease of conversion was. And so it should still be.

Y'all be nit picking over the 5% or less.



Headin fer the bomb shelter!

Here is an applicable thread on the subject.

http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/maint ... t6063.html

Thleone wrote:John can you send a pic of your upper saw guard hose set up please and any info on the aftermarket parts you mentioned? Thanks to all for your input. The bag was part of the issue but I'm still getting excessive dust out the bottom front. Tape over the adjustable slots has helped a bit but I still feel it's excessive, specially when it piles up on the tool shelf. This is the most frustrating thing on the SS. I'm still in total surprise that SS would one patient such a thing when it is so apparent its not efficient and two not have a fix for our issues. I had to modify the band saw with a second bottom port for the same thing. After all these years they should have it perfected by now if you ask me.

The guard is called the Shark Guard. Here is the link to the SS page.

http://www.thesharkguard.com/shopsmith510.php

Yes, they are expensive but they are very well made and the workmanship is first rate and they do make a big difference in dust collection.

My SS one is around 10 years old and is an older design. The one on my PM2000 is the current model and has many improvements. If you buy a SS model today it will be like the one on the Powermatic.

The first picture shows the original SS model when I first got it 10 or so years ago. BTW it was around $100 back then. It is one of the very first ones he made for the SS and I helped him with one of the dimensions of the riving knife that he had slightly wrong.

The second picture shows the current model (SGK1) on my PM2000. The current SS model is like that one.

Again, they are expensive but make a large difference in the amount of dust collected. Also, as far as I know this is the only one available for the SS.

The hose for the SS is two pieces cut to the appropriate length and connected together with a "Y" fitting