Re: What I have learned from the Search Bar
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:35 pm
I think you will find we all view things a little differently so finding a consistence set of answers is unlikely.
I'll give my opinion as others have done, it's a starting place but what is going to really mean something is your own experience. If you have someone to work with at the wood turners group then his/her methods might dictate things differently yet.
1) I have both of the shopsmith faceplates plus a few others. I'm not a bowl turner but I do faceplate turning. For what I do I most often use the 3-3/4" face plate. If you get in to deeper bowl and larger work pieces then the larger faceplates might be a good idea. Starting out you might want to save the money and just get that one to start with.
2) Getting a chuck at some point in the future is a good idea, it saves you the expense now and lets you get some experience with turning so you will have a better idea what you want in the future. The Nova G3 goes on sale from time to time and if that time happens to fall when you are shopping for one then all the better. I personally would not get a chuck of any lesser quality but some folks have and do fine with them.
3) I have a speed changer for my 10ER but since the machine is apart waiting on me to finish painting and assembling it I can not talk from experience. I do know that a lower speed is pretty much needed so I think you will want to find a speed changer sooner rather then later. So start shopping and make sure you watch places like e-bay and don't get carried away in a bidding war. You should be able to find one in good condition for about $150 or less.
4) I upgraded my grinding system a couple of years ago. I went with a variable speed version which I like much more then my older high speed one. I also went for a upgrade, 6" to the larger 8" size which I also like a lot better. If you decide on a cheap grinder you might find you will want to replace it later with a better quality one. So it might be pay me now pay me later situation. Grinding wheels are normally included with the grinder but they maybe of lower quality so again you will want to upgrade to better ones at some point.
5) Live centers, I have a couple, the shopsmith ones are decent but if you find you want a variety of options shopsmith also sells the Nova live center system. I got mine before shopsmith started selling them and I paid a good deal less but that was some years ago. You can see it here:
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... center.htm
Again you can use the one you mentioned but it is limited when compared to what other offer.
6) If it works for you then fine. You can get various different ones and making your own works too. On a square it is as simple as lines crossing from point to point and any straight edge can do that. For the price it is a starting point.
As far as connecting a scrap block to your work piece I'm pretty old school. Titebond II and either newspaper or brown paper or even just surface to surface. I have had CA joints brake while wood working so I would not go that way..... if it works for you fine but again I don't trust it. I have also had joints that failed with hot glue, now I must say that there are different hot glues and I have only used the old version and not the new stuff so maybe I'd change my mind if I played with that. A lot also depends on how large a piece is, if it the size of a half dollar then just about any glue will work. IF it 8" in diameter and a foot long well that is another story all together.
Ed
I'll give my opinion as others have done, it's a starting place but what is going to really mean something is your own experience. If you have someone to work with at the wood turners group then his/her methods might dictate things differently yet.
1) I have both of the shopsmith faceplates plus a few others. I'm not a bowl turner but I do faceplate turning. For what I do I most often use the 3-3/4" face plate. If you get in to deeper bowl and larger work pieces then the larger faceplates might be a good idea. Starting out you might want to save the money and just get that one to start with.
2) Getting a chuck at some point in the future is a good idea, it saves you the expense now and lets you get some experience with turning so you will have a better idea what you want in the future. The Nova G3 goes on sale from time to time and if that time happens to fall when you are shopping for one then all the better. I personally would not get a chuck of any lesser quality but some folks have and do fine with them.
3) I have a speed changer for my 10ER but since the machine is apart waiting on me to finish painting and assembling it I can not talk from experience. I do know that a lower speed is pretty much needed so I think you will want to find a speed changer sooner rather then later. So start shopping and make sure you watch places like e-bay and don't get carried away in a bidding war. You should be able to find one in good condition for about $150 or less.
4) I upgraded my grinding system a couple of years ago. I went with a variable speed version which I like much more then my older high speed one. I also went for a upgrade, 6" to the larger 8" size which I also like a lot better. If you decide on a cheap grinder you might find you will want to replace it later with a better quality one. So it might be pay me now pay me later situation. Grinding wheels are normally included with the grinder but they maybe of lower quality so again you will want to upgrade to better ones at some point.
5) Live centers, I have a couple, the shopsmith ones are decent but if you find you want a variety of options shopsmith also sells the Nova live center system. I got mine before shopsmith started selling them and I paid a good deal less but that was some years ago. You can see it here:
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/cata ... center.htm
Again you can use the one you mentioned but it is limited when compared to what other offer.
6) If it works for you then fine. You can get various different ones and making your own works too. On a square it is as simple as lines crossing from point to point and any straight edge can do that. For the price it is a starting point.
As far as connecting a scrap block to your work piece I'm pretty old school. Titebond II and either newspaper or brown paper or even just surface to surface. I have had CA joints brake while wood working so I would not go that way..... if it works for you fine but again I don't trust it. I have also had joints that failed with hot glue, now I must say that there are different hot glues and I have only used the old version and not the new stuff so maybe I'd change my mind if I played with that. A lot also depends on how large a piece is, if it the size of a half dollar then just about any glue will work. IF it 8" in diameter and a foot long well that is another story all together.
Ed