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Re: ShopSmith headstocks and Philosophy

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:13 am
by Skizzity
My vote is....you have a rebuilt/restored 1982.

My 1984 B250 Dodge Ram van had 150k miles on it. Put in a new engine with less miles and I still have a 1984 B250 Dodge Ram van. The VIN didn't change on it.

Re: ShopSmith headstocks and Philosophy

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:10 am
by rjent
RubenJames, I have rebuilt cars for decades. Mostly concentrating on classic Corvettes and Ford F series pickups from the 50's through the 70's. In classic cars (and there are many many variances) if you stick with the original engine/transmission it is rebuilt. If you change the engine/transmission to something else (I have put 427 Chevys in 56 F100's and visa versa) it is considered modified. Also, a purist will ask if a 74 Corvette Coupe has the original wheel bearings, or the numbers matching engine/transmission/differential etc. It all makes a difference, but only to the group you are working with. All of my 10ER's have the original bearings. My experience in restoring machines has taught me to keep them as original as possible, but that is just me. Some would rather have a variable speed DC 2 HP motor and all of the function that brings on a 10ER. I like both worlds. It depends on your purpose. Since there are no ShopSmith drive in shows LOL, these machines don't get the exposure that a classic car does.

Bottom line, the machine is rebuilt. If you used parts, motors, etc that change the function (more power for instance) of the machine then it is modified.

This is just all my opinion coming from a car nut perspective. Like I said I will keep my 10ER's as stock as I can, including keeping original bearings when I can, but I have a Mark 7 for the heavy stuff. My perspective is different than someone else's might be. I am not a purist, I LIKE the idea of a DC motor on a 10ER, it is just that right now I don't need one.

What ever it becomes, it is yours, and you can be proud of it because your hands re-made it what it is .... :D

Hope it helps!

Re: ShopSmith headstocks and Philosophy

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:20 am
by reible
Yet again we have to ask... but the only answer that counts is what you decide.

Here is my post on the subject:

http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... xe#p124144

And for a little fun this thread:

http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... mer#p95653

So is it better to be woodworking or philosophizing, the age old question.

Ed

Re: ShopSmith headstocks and Philosophy

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:29 am
by reubenjames
reible wrote: So is it better to be woodworking or philosophizing, the age old question.
I enjoyed the threads you referenced. And to answer your question above, it is better to be woodworking when I can, and to be philosophizing about woodworking when I can't. Like these forums, or tool browsing/shopping, or plan making, or new workshop layout daydreaming, philosophizing is one more outlet for me to pass the time in between woodworking sessions. :)

Re: ShopSmith headstocks and Philosophy

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:50 am
by reible
reubenjames wrote:
reible wrote: So is it better to be woodworking or philosophizing, the age old question.
I enjoyed the threads you referenced. And to answer your question above, it is better to be woodworking when I can, and to be philosophizing about woodworking when I can't. Like these forums, or tool browsing/shopping, or plan making, or new workshop layout daydreaming, philosophizing is one more outlet for me to pass the time in between woodworking sessions. :)

I think you got that right, well in my opinion anyway.

Ed

Re: ShopSmith headstocks and Philosophy

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:58 pm
by JPG
Mine also! :)