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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:10 pm
by solicitr
dusty wrote:Bill]

Look at the carriage trunnions and mitre gauge. The green paint shows clearly. Also the red (not black) lettering in the speed dial marks it as a Greenie.
Paul;
Please direct me to a Shopsmith page that describes Model 505. I can't find anything that details a Model 505.
http://www.shopsmith.com/markvsite/purchaseNB.htm. It's the 'Mark V with standard fence and table system': i.e. no rails or floaters. The table and carriage however are the new-model, not the old 500 (which is out of production).


Anyone;
When did the Table Height Adjustment Lever get changed to a wheel?
The wheel came in with the new wider table-and-carriage (ie 505/510/520).

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:23 pm
by Ed in Tampa
solicitr wrote:Look at the carriage trunnions and mitre gauge. The green paint shows clearly. Also the red (not black) lettering in the speed dial marks it as a Greenie.
Good eyes Solicitr, I never noticed the green paint and was wondering myself how everyone were so sure it was a repainted greenie.
Ed

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:48 pm
by edflorence
Ed in Tampa wrote:Good eyes Solicitr, I never noticed the green paint and was wondering myself how everyone were so sure it was a repainted greenie.
Ed
Might be interesting to have a look at the nameplate on the back side to see if it covers a clean-out port or if it is permanently attached. A permanently attached nameplate will date the machine as, I think, pre-'55. You can tell the fence is an original MkV 500 fence by the hole in its upper edge, which was used to hold the lathe tail center vertically so you could use it as the center pivot point for sanding round disks. Pretty handy, actually.

All in all, from the outside the machine appears to be in primo condition and with a little TLC should serve you well.

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:17 pm
by pinkiewerewolf
Welcome to the forum. That is a great looking 500.:)
My greenie was repainted when I bought it, so no worries.
I've been upgrading mine and the first thing that needed replaced was the miter gage/grip. Check yours to make sure that it isn't too worn to hold the angle you choose.
Like Dusty said, lube it up and go through the owners manual before making a big ole pile of sawdust.
Enjoy!

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:48 pm
by a1gutterman
paulmcohen wrote:I think it is a 505 not a 500 that is still available...............
I'll have to agree with you on that, Paul. My mistake: It is the 505 that is still available!:o

Serial Number: 348920

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:43 pm
by l0rens
I guess that makes it a 1957 model.

The plate says it's a Mark 5. Are you still thinking it's a model 500? As I look at EBay I see a lot of reference to model ER and E. Is that something different from a Mark 5. I'm hoping to find a used 510 table upgrade (I put in a bid on one an hour or so ago) That seems like a way to get the upper and lower guards and a table that will make cuts to bigger boards more easy.

I have no idea who may have painted it gray. I'm pretty sure my uncle bought it used. Is there a place where you can purchase the shopsmit gray paint and get that texture with a spray can?

Right now I'm waiting for new manuals and the training workbook so I can figure out how to set up the various functions I've also been bidding for some of the accessories I'd like to have. I know I'd like to have the jointer, shaper and bandsaw. If its a bargain, there's no limit to what might be worth having.

Thanks for all the input!

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:40 am
by solicitr
The plate says it's a Mark 5. Are you still thinking it's a model 500?
Up until 1984, all Mk V's were "Model 500's" - but they didn't call them that, since it was the only model and it didn't need a number.
As I look at EBay I see a lot of reference to model ER and E. Is that something different from a Mark 5
The 10E/10ER was the original Shopsmith, the Mk V's predecessor. They have no parts in common.

Serial Number: 348920

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:40 pm
by l0rens
I guess that makes it a 1957 model.

The plate says it's a Mark 5. Are you still thinking it's a model 500? As I look at EBay I see a lot of reference to model ER and E. Is that something different from a Mark 5. I'm hoping to find a used 510 table upgrade (I put in a bid on one an hour or so ago) That seems like a way to get the upper and lower guards and a table that will make cuts to bigger boards more easy.

I have no idea who may have painted it gray. I'm pretty sure my uncle bought it used. Is there a place where you can purchase the shopsmit gray paint and get that texture with a spray can?

Right now I'm waiting for new manuals and the training workbook so I can figure out how to set up the various functions I've also been bidding for some of the accessories I'd like to have. I know I'd like to have the jointer, shaper and bandsaw. If its a bargain, there's no limit to what might be worth having.

Thanks for all the input!

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:24 pm
by wa2crk
Hi;
I think that may have been a Greenie at one time because there appears to be some remains of green paint in the photo of the table.
Looking through the table slot in the photo at the back of the trunnion there appears to be some green paint showing. Also on the end of the miter gauge casting there also appears to be some remains of green paint. Could also be a reflection though.
Bill