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Re: Experienced Turners - I have a question

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:32 pm
by sehast
masonsailor2 wrote:I use the Nova 2 and love it. As far as reversing I have never had an issue. I do not have a PP so I just change to the other side of the headstock for reverse sanding. I don't think I would try using a chisel on it in reverse but sanding is fine. As far as lathe tools I use steel chisels. I have several different brands but my favorites are still the SS chisels. I turn longer and fatter handles for them which I prefer for better control. I sharpen them on a jig attached to a SS belt sander which works best for me. I think the best upgrade you can do is the steady rest which makes a huge difference in the stability of the lathe.
Paul
Paul,
How does the steady rest connect to the Shopsmith? The picture in the catalog seems to indicate it includes a second tool rest arm that goes into the back side of the carriage. Is that correct?
Steve

Re: Experienced Turners - I have a question

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:03 pm
by BuckeyeDennis
JPG wrote:
masonsailor2 wrote:I use the Nova 2 and love it. As far as reversing I have never had an issue. I do not have a PP so I just change to the other side of the headstock for reverse sanding. I don't think I would try using a chisel on it in reverse but sanding is fine. As far as lathe tools I use steel chisels. I have several different brands but my favorites are still the SS chisels. I turn longer and fatter handles for them which I prefer for better control. I sharpen them on a jig attached to a SS belt sander which works best for me. I think the best upgrade you can do is the steady rest which makes a huge difference in the stability of the lathe.
Paul
????? Nothing is reversed other than your position. The sanding direction does not change. ;)
Sorry Red, but Paul is still recuperating from wedding heatstroke, so it falls upon me to do this. ;) . Both ends of the spindle are still turning the same direction (+Z axis, right-hand rule), but the bowl orientation has been reversed (+Z to -Z).

Re: Experienced Turners - I have a question

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:12 pm
by reible
I wrote a reply earlier but it never got here, must have forgot to submit.... Any way yes you can get reverse direction on the other side of the headstock but if you are turning between centers like on a pen I'm not sure how well it would work moving the tail stock and expecting it to stay centered..... never tired it but it would not have to be off by much to not work well. A faceplate or chucked project could be done that way but it is faster and easier with a headstock that allows you to just switch direction.

Ed

BuckeyeDennis wrote:
JPG wrote:
masonsailor2 wrote:I use the Nova 2 and love it. As far as reversing I have never had an issue. I do not have a PP so I just change to the other side of the headstock for reverse sanding. I don't think I would try using a chisel on it in reverse but sanding is fine. As far as lathe tools I use steel chisels. I have several different brands but my favorites are still the SS chisels. I turn longer and fatter handles for them which I prefer for better control. I sharpen them on a jig attached to a SS belt sander which works best for me. I think the best upgrade you can do is the steady rest which makes a huge difference in the stability of the lathe.
Paul
????? Nothing is reversed other than your position. The sanding direction does not change. ;)
Sorry Red, but Paul is still recuperating from wedding heatstroke, so it falls upon me to do this. ;) . Both ends of the spindle are still turning the same direction (+Z axis, right-hand rule), but the bowl orientation has been reversed (+Z to -Z).

Re: Experienced Turners - I have a question

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:53 am
by JPG
I need a more precise description of "changing to the other side of the headstock".

A headstock/tailstock reversal makes sense.

Moving to the back side does not.

??????

Re: Experienced Turners - I have a question

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:05 am
by BuckeyeDennis
JPG wrote:I need a more precise description of "changing to the other side of the headstock".

A headstock/tailstock reversal makes sense.

Moving to the back side does not.

??????
Dismount chuck/bowl from the main spindle.
Reverse orientation of chuck/bowl (along spindle axis).
Re-mount chuck/bowl on auxiliary spindle.

So I guess "change to the other end of the headstock" would be a more precise description. But anyhoo, Paul was referring to moving the workpiece, not to moving himself.

It's a good idea, in any case. It had never occurred to me -- when I made that bowl for my niece a couple of weekends ago, I was thinking how nice it would be if I could reverse the sanding direction. :rolleyes:

Re: Experienced Turners - I have a question

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:11 am
by JPG
Thank You! Now it makes sense.

Re: Experienced Turners - I have a question

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:58 am
by lalkie01
I am looking at the Nova g3 chuck from Shopsmith and was wondering what the difference is between the Super Nova and the G3. I will using it to turn segmented bowls and vessels. They seem to recommend the Nova G3 for the Shopsith as opposed to the Nova 2 or Nova Super. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Larry

Re: Experienced Turners - I have a question

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:02 pm
by wa2crk
lalkie
IIRC the Super Nova is a chuck for larger or heavier work. The G3 is for holding work up to about 16" in diameter which is about the limit for the Shopsmith. If you are not contemplating going to a larger lathe in the future the G3 is OK. Se my earlier post for some additional details.
Bill V

Re: Experienced Turners - I have a question

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:13 pm
by rpd
lalkie01 wrote:I am looking at the Nova g3 chuck from Shopsmith and was wondering what the difference is between the Super Nova and the G3. I will using it to turn segmented bowls and vessels. They seem to recommend the Nova G3 for the Shopsmith as opposed to the Nova 2 or Nova Super. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Larry
The Shopsmith MkV/7 has a swing of 16½" (the 10er has a swing of 15").
Here are links to the Teknatool pages for the G3 and the SuperNova²
The G3 is recommended for lathes up to 14" swing and lathes with a smaller spindle, it is lighter and shorter (doesn't extend as far past the end of the spindle) so there is less stress on the bearings.
The SuperNova2 is recommended for lathes with up to a 20" swing and is larger/heavier.
I have seen many posts on this forum by members that are happy with their G3 chucks, I have a SuperNova² on my 10er and I am happy with how it works also.
I am sure either will give you good service. If you are planning on doing large turnings or if you think you may get at larger capacity lathe in the future then the SuperNova² is probably the better way to go.

Re: Experienced Turners - I have a question

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:37 pm
by reible
https://www.amazon.com/TEKNATOOL-SUPERN ... nova+chuck

I did a short review there and I'm still really happy with it.

Ed