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Re: Float Plane Takeoff from Concrete Runway

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:02 pm
by tomsalwasser
Nothing but gravity holding the plane to the trailer. A bump in the runway or an unexpected gust of wind from the wrong direction prior to the pilot being ready for take off would not be a good thing as far as this non-pilot can figure.

Re: Float Plane Takeoff from Concrete Runway

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:28 pm
by JPG
tomsalwasser wrote:Nothing but gravity holding the plane to the trailer. A bump in the runway or an unexpected gust of wind from the wrong direction prior to the pilot being ready for take off would not be a good thing as far as this non-pilot can figure.
Runways are not supposed to have 'bumps' that large. :)

Re: Float Plane Takeoff from Concrete Runway

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:41 pm
by tomsalwasser
Yes and airlines are also supposed to have backup generators, but Delta apparently doesn't. Their computers were down all day yesterday. Come on, work with me here instead of picking nits to show how smart you are :) Things happen. A sudden gust of wind from the wrong direction? Blow that plane off the trailer?

Re: Float Plane Takeoff from Concrete Runway

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:32 pm
by ERLover
Pick away, appreciate the video, Thats why cars/trucks have a suspension, it was a class thing, dont pick it apart!! :cool:
Unless you could be there in the Pilot Seat.
I live in SE WI, ever fall, after Moose hunting in Ontario, Canada, Mid November in the evening, a Squadron of Radial engines of Single engine DeHavaland Beavers, and there dual twin Radial engine DeHavaland Outers flying SE to a Rehap center in TN or KT for frame/engine overhaul/inspection.
Always made my evening, spent some time in Beavers. US made a comparable one called the Norseman, dont know who made it, but had a Radial engine also.
Going it to Kenora, CA on a fishing trip with a flying club in one, an Electrician from work was the pilot, 20 year Air Force Reservist, on B52s, Crew Chief, said the other reservist pilots after take take off you got the controls and they all sacked out till landing.
Well 150 miles out of Konora we blew a cylinder, just hummed it and said, thats why a Radial engine is so good!!

Re: Float Plane Takeoff from Concrete Runway

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:53 pm
by BuckeyeDennis
I dunno, I tend to side with Tom on this one. Except that I'm marveling at the throttle control. Too little, and you slide off the back of the trailer. Too much, and you nose over into the truck bed.

Most of my flying experience is with R/C planes, so I'm for sure no expert. But if my butt was in that pilots seat, I'd want something holding the plane to the trailer, to be released only when I was at takeoff speed. And it still shouldn't release if I'm "straining at the leash", because I don't want my floats to trip over the truck cab.

From which I mostly conclude that the guy or gal flying the plane is a much better pilot than I am! :D

Re: Float Plane Takeoff from Concrete Runway

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:18 pm
by ERLover
BuckeyeDennis wrote:I dunno, I tend to side with Tom on this one. Except that I'm marveling at the throttle control. Too little, and you slide off the back of the trailer. Too much, and you nose over into the truck bed.

Most of my flying experience is with R/C planes, so I'm for sure no expert. But if my butt was in that pilots seat, I'd want something holding the plane to the trailer, to be released only when I was at takeoff speed. And it still shouldn't release if I'm "straining at the leash", because I don't want my floats to trip over the truck cab.

From which I mostly conclude that the guy or gal flying the plane is a much better pilot than I am! :D
BD, I appreciate your thoughts, I have done many things in my life, just for challenges and experience, one was to get my pilots license. Then it would be instrumental, dual engine ect.
Ya know BD, I only like to fly in a jet, where I can stand up and has a Head. Well I just did not win the Mega Bucks, I am not Bret Farve, or Donald, so I do it in the BMer on the Interstate at 90+ and just drive, Its a Sport!!!!! Just Drive!!!!

Re: Float Plane Takeoff from Concrete Runway

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:26 pm
by reible
So now that you are interested go here:

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all ... er-takeoff

Ed

Re: Float Plane Takeoff from Concrete Runway

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:37 pm
by ERLover
BuckeyeDennis wrote:I dunno, I tend to side with Tom on this one. Except that I'm marveling at the throttle control. Too little, and you slide off the back of the trailer. Too much, and you nose over into the truck bed.

Most of my flying experience is with R/C planes, so I'm for sure no expert. But if my butt was in that pilots seat, I'd want something holding the plane to the trailer, to be released only when I was at takeoff speed. And it still shouldn't release if I'm "straining at the leash", because I don't want my floats to trip over the truck cab.

From which I mostly conclude that the guy or gal flying the plane is a much better pilot than I am! :D
Trust me this was ehearsed and all experienced personnel, the owner, may have not been the Take Off Pilot.
I Flew out of MOOSE Camp, 4 guys about a ton + in meat and our gear, funny, Middle Eastern Ca pilot, Beaver is loaded, taxied all the way to the other side of the lake, took for ever. I said to him, " how much lake do you need"? He said if it anit enough we all go down", just made it over the trees on the other end!!

Re: Float Plane Takeoff from Concrete Runway

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:45 pm
by swampgator
Thank you, Ed, for an interesting thread and lesson. I really enjoyed this and learned something.

Steve, the old swampgator

Re: Float Plane Takeoff from Concrete Runway

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:56 pm
by reible
My brother is the big airplane guy and he shares a lot things with me. I find it interesting too but I never got that involved as I have so many interests.

I did do some ground school but never had the money to actually fly and it has been so many years now that I would have to start all over as I remember very little of it. Not seeing that happening for me either. I think I still have the information but see little time to spend finding it much less studying it again.

I did fly control line planes in my youth, and have thought about getting a drone but so far I seem to find too many other things that need my attention and money. I'd love to do some photography from that perspective even more then the flying....

Ed