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Re: Ideal shop

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:49 pm
by JPG
One advantage to living at the end of the green grass, is not very many prying eyes around.

BTW status of namesakes?

Re: Ideal shoscle arou

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:57 pm
by jsburger
Ed in Tampa wrote:
jsburger wrote:I have built my ideal shop. I spent about 5 years thinking about it before I built it. It is now 6 years old and I have no desire to radically change anything. In fact I have not changed anything at all from the original design/lay out.

It is 30' X 40' with lots of florescent lights and big windows for natural light. It has a bathroom with a laundry sink, toilet and hot water. There is a 10' X 12' finishing room with two windows. A Clearview Max cyclone dust collector and a Quincey 4 cylinder air compressor. Two ceiling mounted air filters in the main shop and one in the finishing room.

I also have an internet connection and DirecTV.

The shop is a combination of Shopsmith and stand alone tools and ALL get used regularly.
Perhaps I am too paranoid but those windows to me invite a break in. I have had my tools stolen too many times. Tools are like gold almost Impossible to trace and easily sold to guys that only care about a bargain.. For some reason they don't seem to be able to connect the dots when offered a $300 tool for $60. Or maybe you they do but simplyy don't care.

Also you have tons of space but how will that shop be to work in when the hip goes or the shoulder no longer allows you to muscle around a full 4x8 of plywood.

Thatval said I like your shop. I have a case of envy!
Well, I guess paranoia is a product of where you live. I live out in the country at nearly the end of a dead end road. Nobody driving by except the people that live here. I don't even lock my back door when I leave for the day. I have been here for 22 years with no problems. I have 2 acres that is about 2 miles east of the Great Salt Lake. If I stand on the roof of the shop I can almost see Reno, NV. :D :D :D

What does the size of the shop have to do with "muscle around" a sheet of plywood? If I get to the point I can't do it by myself I won't be able to do it regardless of the shop size.

My original plan was 30' X 50'. The cost of the permit was almost twice the amount for the 30' X 40' (1200 SgFt). The 30' X 40' permit was $866.00.

Re: Ideal shop

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:01 pm
by everettdavis
That is an impressive shop, and the fact that you haven't changed it in those years since building it speaks volumes to your planning knowledge and woodworking skill sets that were already in place when you planned it.

You knew what you needed and wanted, then built it.

I have no where to put a shop that size on my property, even if I could justify it.

Here the City codes are so restrictive to how much of a given property space contains vertical structure, or is covered by sidewalks, driveways etc. that it severely restricts how much you can build, in addition to property offsets etc. I have a super sized corner lot for my neighborhood but still nothing of that nature is permitted.

I know our buddy in Truth or Consequences NM has repurposed his property to expand his as well in the last year or so.

I am very impressed with your shop, but far more impressed with you personally as you have been one of the great helps to me here in the forums as well as helping with JPG to provide me resources and guidance to redo the manuals I have done or are in process now.

Beautifully done shop, John.

Everett

Re: Ideal shop

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:04 pm
by jsburger
JPG wrote:One advantage to living at the end of the green grass, is not very many prying eyes around.

BTW status of namesakes?
Absolutely!

Do you mean the Eagle pair? They are gone. I am sure they are OK, they just have to find a new home. Really sad. It was so much fun watching them every day for years. Very sad.

Re: Ideal shop

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:12 pm
by charlese
Very nice building, John.

Where do you keep your collection of clamps?

Re: Ideal shop

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:43 pm
by jsburger
everettdavis wrote:That is an impressive shop, and the fact that you haven't changed it in those years since building it speaks volumes to your planning knowledge and woodworking skill sets that were already in place when you planned it.

You knew what you needed and wanted, then built it.

I have no where to put a shop that size on my property, even if I could justify it.

Here the City codes are so restrictive to how much of a given property space contains vertical structure, or is covered by sidewalks, driveways etc. that it severely restricts how much you can build, in addition to property offsets etc. I have a super sized corner lot for my neighborhood but still nothing of that nature is permitted.

I know our buddy in Truth or Consequences NM has repurposed his property to expand his as well in the last year or so.

I am very impressed with your shop, but far more impressed with you personally as you have been one of the great helps to me here in the forums as well as helping with JPG to provide me resources and guidance to redo the manuals I have done or are in process now.

Beautifully done shop, John. I
Everett
Thank you Everette, but you have done much more for the SS community than I. I spent 24 years in the USAF after working in my grand fathers/uncles lumber yard/custom wood shop. During my AF career there was no wood working opportunity.

Two years before my AF retirement in 1996 I bought this house and moved off base. I wanted to be grounded when I had to retire. Retire with no big changes. As I said I have 2 acres at the end of a dead end road.

Re: Ideal shop

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:13 pm
by ERLover
1st, nice John,
2nd, with age, innovations will come and adapt. I would not worry about Tamba at this time.
3rd, and my question, why the need for so much compressed air? Ah, spray finishing??

Re: Ideal shop

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:49 pm
by jsburger
charlese wrote:Very nice building, John.

Where do you keep your collection of clamps?
On the wall above the compressor.

Re: Ideal shop

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:05 pm
by rjent
Well hell, I was going to post pictures of my shop. Don't see much point now..... LOL

Re: Ideal shoscle arou

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:48 pm
by Ed in Tampa
jsburger wrote:
Ed in Tampa wrote:
jsburger wrote:I have built my ideal shop. I spent about 5 years thinking about it before I built it. It is now 6 years old and I have no desire to radically change anything. In fact I have not changed anything at all from the original design/lay out.

It is 30' X 40' with lots of florescent lights and big windows for natural light. It has a bathroom with a laundry sink, toilet and hot water. There is a 10' X 12' finishing room with two windows. A Clearview Max cyclone dust collector and a Quincey 4 cylinder air compressor. Two ceiling mounted air filters in the main shop and one in the finishing room.

I also have an internet connection and DirecTV.

The shop is a combination of Shopsmith and stand alone tools and ALL get used regularly.
Perhaps I am too paranoid but those windows to me invite a break in. I have had my tools stolen too many times. Tools are like gold almost Impossible to trace and easily sold to guys that only care about a bargain.. For some reason they don't seem to be able to connect the dots when offered a $300 tool for $60. Or maybe you they do but simplyy don't care.

Also you have tons of space but how will that shop be to work in when the hip goes or the shoulder no longer allows you to muscle around a full 4x8 of plywood.

Thatval said I like your shop. I have a case of envy!
Well, I guess paranoia is a product of where you live. I live out in the country at nearly the end of a dead end road. Nobody driving by except the people that live here. I don't even lock my back door when I leave for the day. I have been here for 22 years with no problems. I have 2 acres that is about 2 miles east of the Great Salt Lake. If I stand on the roof of the shop I can almost see Reno, NV. :D :D :D

What does the size of the shop have to do with "muscle around" a sheet of plywood? If I get to the point I can't do it by myself I won't be able to do it regardless of the shop size.

My original plan was 30' X 50'. The cost of the permit was almost twice the amount for the 30' X 40' (1200 SgFt). The 30' X 40' permit was $866.00.
I was complementing you on the size but I never completed the thought. Sorry!
I didn't realize the shop has served you for 22 years. I was thinking it was a new project.
My views of shop layout is changing quickly as I get older. I am less interested in being able to bull large pieces of wood. Lately I try to figure the easiest way to reduce the wood down to it's smallest useable size before I try to lift it. I'm still physically able. I can still tose around a full 4x8 sheet of 1 inch thick MDF and can still hang 5/8 drywall on the ceiling. I just know this body is slowing down and I don't want to have sit in a rocking chair with a whittling knife. :D

I live in an area where horses walked down the street. Doors were always open. Left the garage door open while a sat in the next to the garage watching NASCAR while thieves carried away my tools. I got paranoid. My father in law lived in South Carolina never locked a door
Then one day he got up and his shop was gone. Times are changing! Thiefs are getting bolder.