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Re: Shopsmiths in Australia - for what it's worth
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:41 pm
by jsburger
everettdavis wrote:jsburger wrote:
WOW Everett. What a find and really more great information about Magna and the 10E/ER. Please print out that email and save it. It is priceless.
I am getting ready to make a shadow box for my 10E preliminary manual (the only known copy at this time I think) that you are restoring. I think you should restore the Aussie manual. If you ever want to sell it I want first dibs. I want to make a shadow box to display it. If not I will make a shadow box for it for you to display it.
John,
The measurement of the Australian C.C. Engineering 10ER Owner's Guide is 7" x 9.5" in book form, so before folding the paper was 14" x 9.5" or larger, making it larger than US Legal page size of 8½ x 14 as I thought initially. It measures just over named size B5 which is 176 mm x 250 mm or 6.9" x 9.8"
Everett
OK thanks. I replied to your PM with some questions.
Re: Shopsmiths in Australia - for what it's worth
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:03 am
by cooper33
I have just read this post and had a look at my Shopsmith. It had an Australian serial number of 882. I have the original manual and all the bit I think and have used it for a few projects as a saw, lathe and drill press.
I have had it for about 20 years I guess. I purchased it form a man who was the son of the original purchaser in the late 1940's or early 50'. He lived in the Eastern Surburbs of Sydney NSW and his intention was to do minor projects for people who lived in flats or apartments nearby after the war.
It is a great design and a good piece of equipment. I wonder how many of it's relations are still in use?
Bernie
Re: Shopsmiths in Australia - for what it's worth
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:18 pm
by everettdavis
There are a few that survived based on a handful of posts here from present owners in Australia.
George Stevens late grandfather confirmed that they began importing them in the early 1950's and were upgraded models, fitted with Australian motors.
Serial numbers were already in the thousands in the US when that export began. Based on your serial number, if it was numbered as scheduled it should read A 882 which would have made the base machine a 10E model. Blank serial number plates were sent to Australia enabling C.C. Engineering Industries Ltd. In New South Wales to number them. Some plates were 10E and some were 10ER.
What color is yours?
I would love to see some photos of it, especially the front and back of the headstock, the miter gauge, extension table, and the bases to which the way tubes mount the headstock.
If you go to
https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/view ... 90#p185690 and follow the link to My Google Drive, you will find 3 fully restored manuals for these models in a folder named 10E & 10ER MAGNA.
The Preliminary Manual has an Appendix C I created that documented the lineage and production changes for both.
The 10E manual was based upon the first printed manual for the machine, and the 10ER the latest of the produced machines through 1953.
They are free and should help you restore yours into service, and lists other sources for parts etc. with links to Yahoo Group specializing in these models.
Kindest Regards
Everett
Re: Shopsmiths in Australia - for what it's worth
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:55 pm
by Jedediah
I've just bought three(!) 10er's from the son of the man who owned them, here in NSW. They were under a tarp in the backyard, so they're in so-so condition. I'm doing a full restoration on one, and using the others for parts - although I may bring one of the others up to full spec. I have two Mark V's, and I'm very impressed with how solid the 10er's are by comparison.
Re: Shopsmiths in Australia - for what it's worth
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:12 pm
by JPG
Welcome to the forum mate!
We like pictures!!!!
G'day!
Re: Shopsmiths in Australia - for what it's worth
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:42 pm
by everettdavis
Yes indeed. Photos of each one and especially the Shopsmith badges with serial numbers, the front and back side of the headstocks, the bases, and the extension table and mounts.
I have heard from a fellow there who verified that his unit was bought used in California in 1952 and shipped to Australia with a US sailor who moved there who had been in the Seabees in WWII. The later owner, now quite elderly bought it from the sailor's grand children. It was verified to be a US unit, opposed to a unit imported by C.C Engineering in the early 1950's.
I am so excited to have a contact there who is actively restoring them!
Welcome to the family, and I know everyone here will be willing to help you in your efforts where possible.
Kindest Regards,
Everett.
Re: Shopsmiths in Australia - for what it's worth
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:21 pm
by chapmanruss
We knew that they were sold in other countries. This is a great addition to what we already know about them. Everett thanks again for bringing us new information.
Re: Shopsmiths in Australia - for what it's worth
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:03 am
by roofsmith
Hi guys first post but thought i would post it here as it was likely to be of most relevance.
Just got hold of my first ever Shopsmith tool. Photos attached
This is an Australian CC engineering model 10E .
Serial number is 502 so going by the posts written earlier could this mean this is possibly the second machine brought in the country?
The gentleman i bought the machine from said he bought it around 45yrs ago so original owner is unknown.
Machine has had a hard life used almost daily as drill press and sander. Seems to not skip a beat though.
I do have many other attachments thrown into a box although seems to be missing a few vital parts for the lathe.
There is a pile of paperwork attached but most of it is old photo copys of the 10er manual.
There is however this old advert from around January 1953 (see photo) for what looks like a rebranded shopsmith. I have done a quick search on 'The Andersen' Crafts -Man and cant find anything on this.
Thought this may be of interest to some of you out there anyway.
I will be semi restoring my shopsmith to atleast a clean rust free workable condition and hoping to pick up the missing parts for the lathe in the near future.
Cheers Marc
Re: Shopsmiths in Australia - for what it's worth
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:14 am
by JPG
Please Evaporust or electrolysis only.. Nothing courser that 220 grit!!!
'She' deserves that.
Re: Shopsmiths in Australia - for what it's worth
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:03 pm
by everettdavis
Great find. Thank you for preserving her!
I have a favor to ask. When you disassemble the various locks for the headstock, quill etc. could you please take photos of them and the holes in the headstock where they go?
I meant to ask the other fellow in Australia who restored SN #1200, but he had already disassembled, cleaned, painted, rebuilt it and put it back in service before I reached out to him.
Thanks in advance. Please post pictures as you go. We love pictures!
Everett