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Re: 1956 Model 10 ER FOR SALE

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:43 am
by skou
I'm pretty sure the Model 10s were ALL the same.

If anything, the MW edition has a different nameplate.

MW was the first retailer to get large amounts, and I'll
bet I've had a few in my day. Never seen any difference.

For your last question, ALL the major parts are interchangeable.

The E extension table will not fit on the ER table bracket, and
the E main table mount needs to be on the E model table.
the extension and main tables will switch, but parts of them need
to be on the right edition. (You can put either table on either
machine, but can't mix parts on the table assemblies.) Hope
that makes sense.

steve

Re: 1956 Model 10 ER FOR SALE

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:43 pm
by JPG
There is NO MW version of a Model 10. MW merely wasw the prtime retailer for it.

No MW did not do the 'Mark 2' fiasco with the '10'.

Re: 1956 Model 10 ER FOR SALE

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:21 am
by jsburger
JPG wrote:There is NO MW version of a Model 10. MW merely wasw the prtime retailer for it.

No MW did not do the 'Mark 2' fiasco with the '10'.
You are absolutely correct.

Read the history of the machine. MW ordered 100's of machines for the Christmas season of 1947. Magna had to scramble to fill the order. That was the first order for the 10E as Magna had just started making them a few months earlier.

Again, there is NO MW version of the model 10. They were the first company to sell them in mass. They are all the same.

Re: 1956 Model 10 ER FOR SALE

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:15 am
by dusty
jsburger wrote:
JPG wrote:There is NO MW version of a Model 10. MW merely wasw the prtime retailer for it.

No MW did not do the 'Mark 2' fiasco with the '10'.
You are absolutely correct.

Read the history of the machine. MW ordered 100's of machines for the Christmas season of 1947. Magna had to scramble to fill the order. That was the first order for the 10E as Magna had just started making them a few months earlier.

Again, there is NO MW version of the model 10. They were the first company to sell them in mass. They are all the same.
I guess I would have to disagree somewhat. Those 100s are "MW versions" even though allegedly built to print identical versions of 10Es.

The Shopsmiths are all pretty much the same too even though they were built in different factories. The changes that were made were marketed as "improvements". Greenies, Goldies, smooth Grays and Textured Grays, so what's in color.

Question though: Was there a season or so when Montgomery Wards marketed a version of the Mark???

Re: 1956 Model 10 ER FOR SALE

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:41 am
by jsburger
dusty wrote:
jsburger wrote:
JPG wrote:There is NO MW version of a Model 10. MW merely wasw the prtime retailer for it.

No MW did not do the 'Mark 2' fiasco with the '10'.
You are absolutely correct.

Read the history of the machine. MW ordered 100's of machines for the Christmas season of 1947. Magna had to scramble to fill the order. That was the first order for the 10E as Magna had just started making them a few months earlier.

Again, there is NO MW version of the model 10. They were the first company to sell them in mass. They are all the same.
I guess I would have to disagree somewhat. Those 100s are "MW versions" even though allegedly built to print identical versions of 10Es.

The Shopsmiths are all pretty much the same too even though they were built in different factories. The changes that were made were marketed as "improvements". Greenies, Goldies, smooth Grays and Textured Grays, so what's in color.

Question though: Was there a season or so when Montgomery Wards marketed a version of the Mark???
So do tell us what the differences are between a "MW Version" and one bought directly from Magna. Can you tell us what to look for on the machine? It would be interesting to know what the versions are of the five 10ER's I have here. BTW, when those first machines were delivered to MW Magna only had one factory.

I could be wrong but I believe the MK 2 was a true MW machine and only available through them.

Re: 1956 Model 10 ER FOR SALE

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:54 pm
by JPG
jsburger wrote: . . .

I could be wrong but I believe the MK 2 was a true MW machine and only available through them.
AIUI - Yes!