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Re: Requesting a Moderator or Super Moderator?
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:23 pm
by dusty
There is a lot of nonproductive and uninformed supposition going on here.
Watch all the changes that are happening at shopsmith.com and then tell me bad things are seen on the horizon.
Yes, I suppose the forum as we know it today may change but Shopsmith has been very active in a movement toward the "social media". At the same time, daily participation here has declined over the past few months. I have a log that updates daily; recorded the number of posts, the number of topics and the number of new members.
The number of daily posts average in the 40s or 50s while it used to be double that or more.
I would really hate to see the forum migrate to FB. If it does, I am a goner. I will not rejoin FB. I became inactive there for reasons totally unrelated to Shopsmith and will not go back.
Re: Requesting a Moderator or Super Moderator?
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:08 pm
by JPG
I think the existence of a help wanted ad in the ss site initial page is an indication of something other than doom. Well we can hope!
Re: Requesting a Moderator or Super Moderator?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:31 am
by reible
JPG wrote:I think the existence of a help wanted ad in the ss site initial page is an indication of something other than doom. Well we can hope!
I'd like to think this is a positive but then it could be the ad has been there for months and the position filled but the ad hasn't been taken down..... well there is spam here that is still here for a long while now and hasn't been removed so why would we expect the ad to be up to date?
At least there wasn't any thing new over night.
Here is a capture of part of the woodworking forum which has been particularly hard hit of late. Note the number of views.

- ScreenHunter 37.jpg (205.65 KiB) Viewed 5864 times
Don't know it that is real people or bots but still a lot of views for spam and a waste of peoples time. It would appear that we need another way of dealing with this since we are not getting much support from shopsmith any more.
Perhaps a post here in the community form called "Wall of Shame" that when we find spam we post the users name. Then when you arrive in the forum you check that post for the latest bad guy/gals and take your own personal actions such as not reading their posts or what ever you feel is the best personal way of dealing with it but for sure you don't need to read them to find out they are just spam.
Open to other ideas
Ed
Re: Requesting a Moderator or Super Moderator?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:22 am
by dusty
Reible said: "Open to other ideas"
I made a suggestion some time back and got shot down. Here it is again:
When you find what you think is SPAM, identify the author as a FOE.
If you later click on a post authored by that individual, you will be so notified. Yes, you will have wasted some time but you will be alert to the fact that this SPAM is there. Don't open it and more importantly do not click on any link provided in that SPAM.
I have done what I advise against and suddenly found myself in places I did not want to go.
Re: Requesting a Moderator or Super Moderator?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:50 am
by reible
dusty wrote:Reible said: "Open to other ideas"
I made a suggestion some time back and got shot down. Here it is again:
When you find what you think is SPAM, identify the author as a FOE.
If you later click on a post authored by that individual, you will be so notified. Yes, you will have wasted some time but you will be alert to the fact that this SPAM is there. Don't open it and more importantly do not click on any link provided in that SPAM.
I have done what I advise against and suddenly found myself in places I did not want to go.
I guess I have to ask what board you are using..... I tried that but there doesn't seem to be any indication that I see. I use the board called "shopsmith". Now maybe I'm over looking some message or flag so could you post a capture with how your board lets you know? And well what board you use?
Ed
Re: Requesting a Moderator or Super Moderator?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:16 pm
by beeg
ED
Go to the top of the page and click on "User control panel", next look for the "USER CONTROL PANEL" center on the screen. At the end of the first line is the "friend/foe" to click on.
Re: Requesting a Moderator or Super Moderator?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:48 pm
by reible
beeg wrote:ED
Go to the top of the page and click on "User control panel", next look for the "USER CONTROL PANEL" center on the screen. At the end of the first line is the "friend/foe" to click on.
Yes I know how to do that and I have done it but I don't see any results afterwards. How does the "foe" show up different? I don't see any difference before and after.
Ed
Re: Requesting a Moderator or Super Moderator?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:25 pm
by badtheba
dusty wrote:Yes, I suppose the forum as we know it today may change but Shopsmith has been very active in a movement toward the "social media". At the same time, daily participation here has declined over the past few months.
I joined a buy/sell SS group that has actually been beneficial to me personally. Though there is no way it can compete with this forum for the wealth of information and organization, everyone there has been friendly and helpful, with none of the crap you might see in other types of groups (yet).
A couple months ago a group admin there accepted a member named "Mo Shopsmith" and introduced them as an official Shopsmith employee/representative. Although they post as an individual, and not as a page that can be "liked", there have been a few promotions and informational things they've posted that are official. It also seems that they are responding to group members directly as an individual employee and not as a company. Don't know if it's the same person or department in charge of their official Facebook page, but it does seem pretty personal from what I've seen.
Re: Requesting a Moderator or Super Moderator?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:49 pm
by jsburger
badtheba wrote:dusty wrote:Yes, I suppose the forum as we know it today may change but Shopsmith has been very active in a movement toward the "social media". At the same time, daily participation here has declined over the past few months.
I joined a buy/sell SS group that has actually been beneficial to me personally. Though there is no way it can compete with this forum for the wealth of information and organization, everyone there has been friendly and helpful, with none of the crap you might see in other types of groups (yet).
A couple months ago a group admin there accepted a member named "Mo Shopsmith" and introduced them as an official Shopsmith employee/representative. Although they post as an individual, and not as a page that can be "liked", there have been a few promotions and informational things they've posted that are official. It also seems that they are responding to group members directly as an individual employee and not as a company. Don't know if it's the same person or department in charge of their official Facebook page, but it does seem pretty personal from what I've seen.
I am not on social media and never will be. Look at what just happened to Facebook. You couldn't pay me enough money to join Facebook or Twitter or anything else.
Then there is youtube today. Some idiot woman thinks she has the right to post anything she wants. But when you take a gun and shoot people then things change. I don't care if you 'LIKE' me or not. I have friends and FAMILY that actually like me. I don't need some anonymous idiot to tell me they like me. I choose my friends based on how they react to me. Maybe all this "social" (NOT) media should just go away and then the parents would take the responsibility to raise their children correctly.
Re: Requesting a Moderator or Super Moderator?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:57 pm
by dusty
I guess that I just don't understand what social media is. I have always thought of the several forums that I visit as part of social media. If this is not social media, please tell me what it is.