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reible wrote:This might be a silly question but do you have your email address as shown in your thunderbird address book?

If not add it.

I don't have any of my cameras up now but have in the past and unless this is a new thing then I would expect them to still work.

Ed

No I don't and never have and it was working just fine. That email is only an example. It happens to all emails regardless of where they come from.

Perhaps the Log file got corrupted.

You could try, Edit - Preferences - Security - Reset Training Data. (That is in Linux, if you are running Windoze I think Preferences is in a different drop-down menu.)

Thank you all for the insight into Thunderbird.


I have seen enough to know that I'll stick with Outlook. Too much to relearn. I am just NOT as adventurous as I once was.

dusty wrote:Thank you all for the insight into Thunderbird.


I have seen enough to know that I'll stick with Outlook. Too much to relearn. I am just NOT as adventurous as I once was.

Actually it is not now that much different than Outlook. I have looked at it over the years and never switched because it seemed to be a lot different than Outlook and I didn't like the difference in the look on the screen.

I actually installed it on 11 July (I thought it was a little longer than that) and liked the look and the ease of switching from Outlook.

Besides our two copies of MS Office 2010 purchased for $10 each through the government won't register any more due to "too many installations" over the years on different computers. I am not willing to pay a yearly fee for Office which is the only way to get it now .

I've used Thunderbird for years, but I don't use any of its spam filter stuff. Instead, I use an app called "Mailwasher" by Firetrust (https://www.firetrust.com/products/mailwasher-pro. It retrieves email headers (subject, sender, date) for all three of my accounts and sorts it into spam or good. When I hit "process", it deletes the spam, opens Thunderbird and passes the good to it (it works with pretty much any other well-known email app like Outlook). At first, it labels everything with little buttons (s or g), but it then remembers your choice for the future. You can also designate a post as "friend" or blacklist it.

After you've used it for a few weeks, it's almost 100% accurate, so all I usually have to do is hit "process". If I ever want to see a particular spam item, I can uncheck the delete box, which passes it to Thunderbird but keeps it categorized for future posts as spam.

It has an added advantage in that it allows you to view the first few dozen lines of a post without opening it; and images and links are shown as code rather than actually displayed, which thwarts hidden, embedded "phone-home" codes that notify the sender that you received and opened the email.

It isn't free, but it allows a free trial.

rpd wrote:Perhaps the Log file got corrupted.

You could try, Edit - Preferences - Security - Reset Training Data. (That is in Linux, if you are running Windoze I think Preferences is in a different drop-down menu.)

Screenshot from 2018-09-15 16-26-18.png

OK, I may have found the problem. Actually Thunderbird was doing exactly what it should have been doing.

I created a "Junk Email" folder that I used to move messages to using the Thunderbird (TB) filters. However there is an IMAP Junk folder that apparently Thunderbird has been moving messages to since I installed it. I never checked the folder since I have TB set to only show unread messages and when they get moved to Junk they are marked as read.

Anyhow it had around 200 emails in it. About half were actually junk. The rest were from email subscriptions I wanted. The odd part is that some of those subscription emails came through just fine and some went to junk so I did not know what I was missing. So, I guess TB's adaptive (learning) junk filter algorithm finally decided that most things were junk because I did not tell it they were not.

I went in the junk folder and marked all the good emails as not junk. We will see what happens.

GIGO, Computers do what they are told to do, not what we expect them to do. Except for Bugs, then all bets are off.

rpd wrote:GIGO, Computers do what they are told to do, not what we expect them to do. Except for Bugs, then all bets are off.

Nor what we thought we told it to do.

Good intentions must be carefully, explicitly programmed.

jsburger wrote:

rpd wrote:Perhaps the Log file got corrupted.

You could try, Edit - Preferences - Security - Reset Training Data. (That is in Linux, if you are running Windoze I think Preferences is in a different drop-down menu.)

Screenshot from 2018-09-15 16-26-18.png

OK, I may have found the problem. Actually Thunderbird was doing exactly what it should have been doing.

I created a "Junk Email" folder that I used to move messages to using the Thunderbird (TB) filters. However there is an IMAP Junk folder that apparently Thunderbird has been moving messages to since I installed it. I never checked the folder since I have TB set to only show unread messages and when they get moved to Junk they are marked as read.

Anyhow it had around 200 emails in it. About half were actually junk. The rest were from email subscriptions I wanted. The odd part is that some of those subscription emails came through just fine and some went to junk so I did not know what I was missing. So, I guess TB's adaptive (learning) junk filter algorithm finally decided that most things were junk because I did not tell it they were not.

I went in the junk folder and marked all the good emails as not junk. We will see what happens.

So I was right in my feeble attempt to be funny. AI read your corespondance and decided it was junk.

jsburger wrote:Is anyone using Thunderbird for email? I am trying to get away from MS Office. I have been using Open Office for years and finally decided to use Thunderbird instead of Outlook. I have been using it for 5 or 6 months with no problem. Then suddenly yesterday morning it started to flag almost everything as junk. Today I reset the adaptive junk filter but that did not help. Has anybody seen this phenomenon?

I have used Mailwasher for several years. It is a spam filtering program. It allows you to view headers for your email without downloading to your computer. You can delete any unwanted "spam" without it getting to your computer. It can also be taught your friends or business email addresses or you can label any email from spammers. Future instances of those spam email will then automatically be labeled to delete when you "wash" your email. You then retrieve your "washed" email into Tbird or your other email program. I also use Thunderbird.