Are you sure of that proclamation??? RLF came into existence while I have been a member of this forum.jsburger wrote:Naw, the law suit was the MK V. That is why Shopsmith Inc. went away and became RFL Brands.algale wrote:Naw, that lawsuit was in the 10ER days.beeg wrote:
I thought that it was because of a large law suit?
A Lot of Power Pro Issues?
Moderator: admin
- dusty
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 21530
- Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
- Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona
Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35598
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?
I think NOT! SS Inc. went into bankruptcy and emerged as RLF(IIUC).dusty wrote:Are you sure of that proclamation??? RLF came into existence while I have been a member of this forum.jsburger wrote:Naw, the law suit was the MK V. That is why Shopsmith Inc. went away and became RFL Brands.algale wrote:
Naw, that lawsuit was in the 10ER days.
No way it was a Mark V in 1955.
I am surprised that YUBA was relevant in 1955.
I am also curious what lathe 'stuff' was acquired in 1957 that did not come with a Mark 5 in 1955. I will go back and read the legal stuff Algale linked to. I also did not think it had a two year delay between purchase an injury.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35598
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?
OK no link that contains the footnote.
AIRI, the way tube set screws were 'loose' coming from the manufacturer. "Expert" witnesses claimed that the design(tubes held in by single set screws) was deficient and did not match the claim(that rigid stuff) in the manual on page 5.
AIRI, the way tube set screws were 'loose' coming from the manufacturer. "Expert" witnesses claimed that the design(tubes held in by single set screws) was deficient and did not match the claim(that rigid stuff) in the manual on page 5.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?
The footnote is at the bottom of the case which I linked to. Anyway, here is what it says:JPG wrote:OK no link that contains the footnote.
AIRI, the way tube set screws were 'loose' coming from the manufacturer. "Expert" witnesses claimed that the design(tubes held in by single set screws) was deficient and did not match the claim(that rigid stuff) in the manual on page 5.
"FN 1. In this respect the trial court limited the jury to a consideration of two statements in the manufacturer's brochure. (1) "When Shopsmith Is in Horizontal Position--Rugged construction of frame provides rigid support from end to end. Heavy centerless-ground steel tubing insures perfect alignment of components." (2) "Shopsmith maintains its accuracy because every component has positive locks that hold adjustments through rough or precision work."
Gale's Law: The bigger the woodworking project, the less the mistakes show in any photo taken far enough away to show the entire project!
- dusty
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 21530
- Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:52 am
- Location: Tucson (Wildcat Country), Arizona
Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?
Mark 5 or 10ER - makes very little difference.
My question related to Shopsmith becoming RLF.
"That is why Shopsmith Inc. went away and became RFL Brands". I don't think so.
Mid year 2009 as I recall.
As I understand the overall situation, it has been PowerPro sales that pulled Shopsmith out of trouble.
Even better than my recollection: https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/view ... 125#p43125
Found this in my archives:
My question related to Shopsmith becoming RLF.
"That is why Shopsmith Inc. went away and became RFL Brands". I don't think so.
Mid year 2009 as I recall.
As I understand the overall situation, it has been PowerPro sales that pulled Shopsmith out of trouble.
Even better than my recollection: https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/view ... 125#p43125
Found this in my archives:
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?
what i don;t get is in the header it is RLFshop, LLC but in the text it is RFL shop. which one is it?
Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?
It's "RLF", look at the bottom right hand side of the screen.
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
.
.
Bob
.
.
Bob
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35598
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?
RLF is Robert's initials. However bottom right now reads RLFBRANDS LLC.beeg wrote:It's "RLF", look at the bottom right hand side of the screen.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
- JPG
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 35598
- Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?
Guess who 'missed' the link!algale wrote:The footnote is at the bottom of the case which I linked to. Anyway, here is what it says:JPG wrote:OK no link that contains the footnote.
AIRI, the way tube set screws were 'loose' coming from the manufacturer. "Expert" witnesses claimed that the design(tubes held in by single set screws) was deficient and did not match the claim(that rigid stuff) in the manual on page 5.
"FN 1. In this respect the trial court limited the jury to a consideration of two statements in the manufacturer's brochure. (1) "When Shopsmith Is in Horizontal Position--Rugged construction of frame provides rigid support from end to end. Heavy centerless-ground steel tubing insures perfect alignment of components." (2) "Shopsmith maintains its accuracy because every component has positive locks that hold adjustments through rough or precision work."
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝
Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
- Ed in Tampa
- Platinum Member
- Posts: 5834
- Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:45 am
- Location: North Tampa Bay area Florida
Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?
Read this link
https://www.trademarkia.com/shopsmith-p ... 50219.html
There apparently more than one or two LLC connected to Folkerth and Shopsmith
https://www.trademarkia.com/shopsmith-p ... 50219.html
There apparently more than one or two LLC connected to Folkerth and Shopsmith