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Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:03 am
by dusty
jsburger wrote:
algale wrote:
beeg wrote:

I thought that it was because of a large law suit?
Naw, that lawsuit was in the 10ER days.
Naw, the law suit was the MK V. That is why Shopsmith Inc. went away and became RFL Brands.
Are you sure of that proclamation??? RLF came into existence while I have been a member of this forum.

Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:25 am
by JPG
dusty wrote:
jsburger wrote:
algale wrote:
Naw, that lawsuit was in the 10ER days.
Naw, the law suit was the MK V. That is why Shopsmith Inc. went away and became RFL Brands.
Are you sure of that proclamation??? RLF came into existence while I have been a member of this forum.
I think NOT! SS Inc. went into bankruptcy and emerged as RLF(IIUC).

No way it was a Mark V in 1955.

I am surprised that YUBA was relevant in 1955.

I am also curious what lathe 'stuff' was acquired in 1957 that did not come with a Mark 5 in 1955. I will go back and read the legal stuff Algale linked to. I also did not think it had a two year delay between purchase an injury.

Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:54 am
by JPG
OK no link that contains the footnote.

AIRI, the way tube set screws were 'loose' coming from the manufacturer. "Expert" witnesses claimed that the design(tubes held in by single set screws) was deficient and did not match the claim(that rigid stuff) in the manual on page 5.

Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:27 am
by algale
JPG wrote:OK no link that contains the footnote.

AIRI, the way tube set screws were 'loose' coming from the manufacturer. "Expert" witnesses claimed that the design(tubes held in by single set screws) was deficient and did not match the claim(that rigid stuff) in the manual on page 5.
The footnote is at the bottom of the case which I linked to. Anyway, here is what it says:

"FN 1. In this respect the trial court limited the jury to a consideration of two statements in the manufacturer's brochure. (1) "When Shopsmith Is in Horizontal Position--Rugged construction of frame provides rigid support from end to end. Heavy centerless-ground steel tubing insures perfect alignment of components." (2) "Shopsmith maintains its accuracy because every component has positive locks that hold adjustments through rough or precision work."

Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:52 am
by dusty
Mark 5 or 10ER - makes very little difference.

My question related to Shopsmith becoming RLF.

"That is why Shopsmith Inc. went away and became RFL Brands". I don't think so.

Mid year 2009 as I recall.

As I understand the overall situation, it has been PowerPro sales that pulled Shopsmith out of trouble.

Even better than my recollection: https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/view ... 125#p43125

Found this in my archives:
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Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:03 am
by bill50cal
what i don;t get is in the header it is RLFshop, LLC but in the text it is RFL shop. which one is it?

Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:22 pm
by beeg
It's "RLF", look at the bottom right hand side of the screen.

Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:14 pm
by JPG
beeg wrote:It's "RLF", look at the bottom right hand side of the screen.
RLF is Robert's initials. However bottom right now reads RLFBRANDS LLC.

Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:25 pm
by JPG
algale wrote:
JPG wrote:OK no link that contains the footnote.

AIRI, the way tube set screws were 'loose' coming from the manufacturer. "Expert" witnesses claimed that the design(tubes held in by single set screws) was deficient and did not match the claim(that rigid stuff) in the manual on page 5.
The footnote is at the bottom of the case which I linked to. Anyway, here is what it says:

"FN 1. In this respect the trial court limited the jury to a consideration of two statements in the manufacturer's brochure. (1) "When Shopsmith Is in Horizontal Position--Rugged construction of frame provides rigid support from end to end. Heavy centerless-ground steel tubing insures perfect alignment of components." (2) "Shopsmith maintains its accuracy because every component has positive locks that hold adjustments through rough or precision work."
Guess who 'missed' the link! :o :o :o :o :o

Re: A Lot of Power Pro Issues?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:21 pm
by Ed in Tampa
Read this link
https://www.trademarkia.com/shopsmith-p ... 50219.html
There apparently more than one or two LLC connected to Folkerth and Shopsmith