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Re: Frustrating day!

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:04 pm
by ChrisNeilan
Much better day today!

Re: Frustrating day!

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:52 pm
by BuckeyeDennis
Nice!!!

Re: Frustrating day!

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:24 pm
by rjent
Wow! That is gorgeous! :cool:

Re: Frustrating day!

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:00 pm
by edflorence
Wow! Great looking board and judging from that one it looks like you are going to get a bunch of nice boards from those big logs. Will be interested in seeing pictures of how you stack and sticker for drying.

Re: Frustrating day!

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:35 pm
by stew
Question for you guys that have cut and dried your own wood. I was given several pretty good size slabs of walnut 2 years ago which I stacked, stickered and sealed the ends. It is in my garage in a make shift tunnel with a fan blowing over/through the wood 24 hrs a day 7 days a week. I was out of town and stopped into a hardwood dealer/shop last weekend and was talking to the owner. He indicated that air dried wood will never get to the 7-8% that I think I am looking for. He said kiln dried is a much better option. I thought it was only better because of the shorter time but the end results are the same. Am I just wasting my time trying to dry this stuff?

Re: Frustrating day!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:59 am
by BuckeyeDennis
Final moisture content for air drying depends on the average relative humidity of the environment. Here in Ohio, you can expect to get to about 11% MC by air-drying outdoors, IIRC. I store wood indoors in my basement shop for a few months before using it, which allows it to acclimate to the lower indoor humidity.

Kiln-drying walnut affects its color. Air-dried walnut is more colorful, typically with some purple overtones. (You can see the purple in this post of some bowl blanks that I cut a couple weeks ago). Kiln-drying walnut mutes the colors, turning it into the more uniform brown you see in commercial walnut furniture. As a matter of fact, commercial walnut is often steamed, as this darkens the sapwood so much that it can be used as well.

Re: Frustrating day!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:46 am
by robinson46176
stew wrote:Question for you guys that have cut and dried your own wood. I was given several pretty good size slabs of walnut 2 years ago which I stacked, stickered and sealed the ends. It is in my garage in a make shift tunnel with a fan blowing over/through the wood 24 hrs a day 7 days a week. I was out of town and stopped into a hardwood dealer/shop last weekend and was talking to the owner. He indicated that air dried wood will never get to the 7-8% that I think I am looking for. He said kiln dried is a much better option. I thought it was only better because of the shorter time but the end results are the same. Am I just wasting my time trying to dry this stuff?
If I was selling kiln dried lumber that is exactly what I would say... :rolleyes:
Study the history of some of the finest furniture built in Colonial America. Many of their "factories" were a large room of their house and all lumber was kept in a lean-to on the back. Their drying kiln was... No, wait... They didn't have drying kilns. :)
I've used both. I believe that the lumber should be a balance between the moisture level in your shop and the place where it will reside when complete. I also believe that it is possible to over dry it depending on where you live in the country. A lot depends on what kind of woodworking you want to do. Many kinds of woodworking are done green on purpose.


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Re: Frustrating day!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:38 am
by Hobbyman2
It's amazing what nature does . those are real pretty .
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Stew, the longer it dries the better it gets, IMO after a while it stabilizes to its environment, it is best to dry it indoors away from pest , I agree with the post above . 6% -8% is doable here in Ohio, if you can get it into a attic it will cut the dryng time down , be prepared for a few twist or bends when you cut into the board depending on how it was cut .I have seen the saw blade try to follow the grain n quarter sawn lumber . sharp blades are a must and feather boards and riving knives are a good idea .all in all I think you will be happy using it , harbor freight sell's a cheap moisture meter under 10 bks , its not fancy but it will get ya by .

Re: Frustrating day!

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:38 pm
by stew
Thanks for the responses, I am feeling better about my wood. I plan on testing it in the next couple of weeks to see how dry it is. I am pretty sure no pests and it is in an attached garage that never really gets below 25-30 degrees here in the Chicago area. My next first will be to try and mill this stuff into useful stock without destroying it.