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Re: Global Warming -- Day 3
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:07 am
by garys
ChrisNeilan wrote:You folks do know that a single event does not define a trend, right? Averages are just that, averages. Data collected over years...
Exactly true. People need to learn the difference between weather and climate. The climate doesn't change in the short term. (Not in hundreds or thousands of years. Climate changes over millions of years)
Weather changes every day and always will.
Those people trying to sell us climate change need to wait a million years before they will have any crediblity.
Re: Global Warming -- Day 3
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:55 pm
by JPG
garys wrote:ChrisNeilan wrote:You folks do know that a single event does not define a trend, right? Averages are just that, averages. Data collected over years...
Exactly true. People need to learn the difference between weather and climate. The climate doesn't change in the short term. (Not in hundreds or thousands of years.
Climate changes over millions of years)
Weather changes every day and always will.
Those people trying to sell us climate change need to wait a million years before they will have any crediblity.
Tell that to the woolly mammoths.
Re: Global Warming -- Day 3
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:42 pm
by Hobbyman2
I use to run produce to Superior WI in the winter in the semi, I had to run the hater in the refer trailer to keep the stuff from freezing from the bottom , they put 2 pallets on the floor for air to circulate under the pallets ,if you set the pallets on the floor the lettuce on the bottom boxes would freeze . according to the waitress 40 deg bellow zero was a warm winter .
Re: Global Warming -- Day 3
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:28 pm
by garys
While I've seen -40 more than enough, I would never call it a warm winter temp.
I looked back at the recorded temperatures for Bismarck, ND. Here are the record lows for the days it dropped to -40 or lower.
-40 1887, 1959, 1967, 1974, 1983
-41 1887, 1968, 1977
-42 1887, 1916, 1936, 1974
-43 1887, 1929, 1967, 1994
-44 1950, 2009
-45 1916, 1936
The only thing that stands out to me is that 1887 was the coldest winter recorded here. After that, I see only normal variations from year to year and day to day.
I suspect that if you look at the actual temps for Superior you will see much the same thing.
Re: Global Warming -- Day 3
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:43 pm
by Hobbyman2
garys wrote:While I've seen -40 more than enough, I would never call it a warm winter temp.
I looked back at the recorded temperatures for Bismarck, ND. Here are the record lows for the days it dropped to -40 or lower.
-40 1887, 1959, 1967, 1974, 1983
-41 1887, 1968, 1977
-42 1887, 1916, 1936, 1974
-42 1887, 1936
-43 1887, 1929, 1967, 1994
-44 1950, 2009
-45 1916, 1936
The only thing that stands out to me is that 1887 was the coldest winter recorded here. After that, I see only normal variations from year to year and day to day.
I suspect that if you look at the actual temps for Superior you will see much the same thing.
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being from Ohio I know it isn't t shirt weather ! I was there in the early 2000's , it was -41 below on the mercury , there were ships frozen down in the bay ,the waitress said she seen it -60 below , there was frost on the inside of the freight liner truck sleeper .years later we bought our own rig with the Nordic pack, double insulated walls and floor !! you could heat / cool that thing with a candle. after that use to love running the north in winter . just as long as I could go south a few times and thaw out .