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Mike wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:00 pm JPG- I’m sure you are right and have a lot more experience than I do, so thank you.
Not sure if I can let it go right or wrong I may make the adjustment. I will think about it long and hard before. Thanks again.

I agree with JPG. I would not alter anything. It is the way it is supposed to be. If you have a problem with the drill bits rolling off just drop them in the miter slot. Problem solved.

Or mount the rip fence at the back edge of the table. Why does one put drill bits on the table in the way?

The top of the tubes lean forward so grinding will bring the bottom down and top back, it’s reversed from standard set up. See pics, I leaned the top forward to show the gap getting larger so to pull back I need to reduce distance between casting and where it seats.
The lock will sit better as well though I saw a untuned video that stated the way it is is normal

John- drill bits not really the issue as I plan on a storage system under table, just used it as an example as to how tilted it is. The issue is, I personally may not be able to live with it that way for a reason that doesn’t makes sense to me and that’s just me unfortunately. Thank you all for your kind assistance.

Mike wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 8:37 pm The top of the tubes lean forward so grinding will bring the bottom down and top back, it’s reversed from standard set up. See pics, I leaned the top forward to show the gap getting larger so to pull back I need to reduce distance between casting and where it seats.
The lock will sit better as well though I saw a untuned video that stated the way it is is normal

Again, that is the way it is designed. As far as your second picture (the vertical locking knob), that is the way it is designed. It is supposed to be that way. All SS's are that way.

I am not sure why this is a problem for under table storage.

John- As I stated above drill bits not really the issue as I plan on a storage system under table, just used it as an example as to how tilted it is. The issue is, I personally may not be able to live with it that way for a reason that doesn’t makes sense to me and that’s just me unfortunately. Thank you all for your kind assistance.

Mike wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:05 pm John- As I stated above drill bits not really the issue as I plan on a storage system under table, just used it as an example as to how tilted it is. The issue is, I personally may not be able to live with it that way for a reason that doesn’t makes sense to me and that’s just me unfortunately. Thank you all for your kind assistance.

Well, you have already said that. The reason is that it was designed with the head stock and table hanging off the end of the machine in vertical mode. It was designed to go slightly past vertical in that direction so it would not fall back down on it's own if the lock is not engaged. The weight of the head stock and the table keep it upright since it is slightly over center. It was designed that way for safety reasons. In the normal full sized SS drill press mode the table would also not be parallel to the bench tubes in the opposite direction.

I understand the concept but now it leans the opposite way doing exactly what the original configuration was set up to prevent. If lock Is not engaged it easily can tip towards the operator, the same direction it is leaning. For me that is another reason to get it to lean back and more level to the floor. Maybe I should grind a bit more to get it closer to the original design? I was just hoping someone had a better work around.
Thank you

If you want the upright and spindle perfectly vertical you could shim the legs.

MIKE: STOP and think this through.

The way tubes stop at slightly past 90°.

Normally this causes the table to slope towards the operator and weight/quill pressure forces the table further away from the 90° position. The stop screw 'dimple' is off center so the tapered end of the stop screw contacts the sloping edge of the dimple. This creates a must back out screw to 'lower' the waytubes etc..

In the reversed assembly the over 90° stop causes the table to slope towards the way tubes away from the now operating position and weight/quill pressure forces the table back towards the 90° vertical. This creates a potential for falling back to horizontal. The stop screw/dimple is not affected.

Grinding away the casting will INCREASE the past 90° overtravel, NOT decrease it and yes the stop screw would be positioned more towards the center of the dimple. Further more it will increase that which you are trying to eliminate(makes table further from horizontal).

If you are concerned re drawer sloping. simply mount it horizontal(further from table at the front than at the rear).

Using the assembly reversed increases the potential to fall back, so making the way tubes 'vertical' exacerbates that further.