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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:24 pm
by dusty
dknapp1 wrote:Do I need the whole 51556 assembly again, or can I just order the retaining spring?
It is hard to say without being able to touch/feel/hear/see. But, I would buy the whole enchilada and save any of the "good" parts as emergency spares.

Do you have the latest paper catalog or have you downloaded the catalog from the Shopsmith web site. Both sources have an illustrated parts breakdown for reference. The prices listed in these should be used for reference only.

Hot lower spindle

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:34 pm
by billmayo
I would like to know how you got the retaining loop removed from the control sheave. A picture are worth a thousand words is very true when determining problems and if a part meeds replacing. If you would like to send me (bill@billstoolz.com) a few pictures of the speed control assembly and idler shaft assembly, maybe I could give you a better answer. Regradless of what you do, I would be interested in all the bad/broken parts you may have left when done. I like to analyze them and modify them for various projects that I do. I will pay packing and shipping costs for them.

I have replaced the retaining loop (504187) and roll pin (513734) on the control sheave if the control sheave end bearing is still good.

My soapbox: yes, I love using blue (temporary) and red (permanent) LocTite to prevent set screws and other items from coming loose. I use KROIL for loosening rusty and stuck items. I use Zoom Sprout Turbine Oil for my lubication too.

dknapp1 wrote:Do I need the whole 51556 assembly again, or can I just order the retaining spring?

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:19 pm
by beeg
dknapp1 wrote:Do I need the whole 51556 assembly again, or can I just order the retaining spring?
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ORDER JUST THE RETAINING LOOP, iT'S PART OF THE 515556 ASSEMBLY.

Control Sheave Assembly
May require replacement in the event the bearing gets clogged and ceases to turn, or if the snap-on rectangular retaining loop pulls off the end of the control sheave.

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:03 pm
by dusty
beeg wrote:I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ORDER JUST THE RETAINING LOOP, iT'S PART OF THE 515556 ASSEMBLY.

Control Sheave Assembly
May require replacement in the event the bearing gets clogged and ceases to turn, or if the snap-on rectangular retaining loop pulls off the end of the control sheave.

What is part number 504187, Retaining Loop, $1.11

Shown in the illustrated breakdown as part of Control Sheave Assembly, 515556.

If you don't have this parts breakdown, you can download it.

You want the PDF Accessory Catalog shown at the bottom center of the following

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/

Items that cannot be ordered are identified with what looks like a dagger or sword.

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:18 pm
by beeg
Well gee, I THOUGHT I heard/read it couldn't be ordered. MAYBE it was a better to order the whole assembly thing.:confused:

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:42 am
by dusty
beeg wrote:Well gee, I THOUGHT I heard/read it couldn't be ordered. MAYBE it was a better to order the whole assembly thing.:confused:

Maybe it cannot, Bob. The catalog could be misleading. I have not tried. I have a complete spare assembly. If I need to replace this puppy I don't want to take a chance that I cannot do so right now.

Saw dust withdraw is BAD! Withdraw caused by BO is even worse.





BO - Back Order

Cintrol Sheave Retaining Loop

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:32 pm
by billmayo
I ordered and received a dozen of number 504187, Retaining Loop, which is part of the Control Sheave Assembly, 515556 last week. Check with Jan at Shopsmith as she is aware of most of these subset parts that may or may not be listed. She is excellant for finding these parts.

beeg wrote:I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ORDER JUST THE RETAINING LOOP, iT'S PART OF THE 515556 ASSEMBLY.

Control Sheave Assembly
May require replacement in the event the bearing gets clogged and ceases to turn, or if the snap-on rectangular retaining loop pulls off the end of the control sheave.

Retain loop availabiliyt

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:24 pm
by JPG
billmayo wrote:I ordered and received a dozen of number 504187, Retaining Loop, which is part of the Control Sheave Assembly, 515556 last week. Check with Jan at Shopsmith as she is aware of most of these subset parts that may or may not be listed. She is excellant for finding these parts.
It IS listed in the online Service and Repair Parts catalog. It is hard to see in the exploded view, but it IS there as well as the rollpin.

At least if you download the PDF version you can 'blow it up' to see things better.:)