To putttn,
You are welcome, unfortunately, it looks like the Spokane lathe turning class is full.
To scottss,
I do not know if they use the 520 or not. I know that at the recent Tacoma Home and Garden show that I went to, Mike was using the 510. Can anyone answer?
To buy or not-- I BOUGHT!
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Rick also used the 510 in the last class I attended but the differences between the two models are operationally identical.
The value in the 520 is in the pro-fence. The fence on the 510 is very good but the fence on the 520 is marvelous. It is worth every penny of the cost difference.
Don't drop out because of the model used to teach the session. Classes are equally valuable no matter.
It is unfortunate that the class is full but don't give up, often there are cancellations. Stay is touch.
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The value in the 520 is in the pro-fence. The fence on the 510 is very good but the fence on the 520 is marvelous. It is worth every penny of the cost difference.
Don't drop out because of the model used to teach the session. Classes are equally valuable no matter.
It is unfortunate that the class is full but don't give up, often there are cancellations. Stay is touch.
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Glad to hear your progress, Putttn. Glad that you've joined our ranks. You won't be sorry, I'm sure. I echo the sentiments about getting to the classes. For a newbie to the machine, you can't go wrong. Talk to them about getting on the waiting list. If they know you're interested, they'll do what they can for you.putttn wrote:Wow! Thanks, I'm going to sign up for the Spokane class since I live here it will be fantastic. I don't even know how to put the darn thing together and could really use some help seeing how it's done.
And now that we know you're from up there near Spokane, you might just find out that you've got LOTS of company who'd be willing to help you with your nearly new toy.
Curious, sir, did you get any of the special purpose tools with your treasure? Bandsaw, jointer, etc.??
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putttn
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I'm scheduled to go to the Spokane school on Mar. 12 & 13. I got two of the schools and will be attending others in the future. Never thought I'd be so excited to go to "school"! I'm so green on woodworking I'm really in need of instruction and this is just a fantastic service to owners of SS.
I ended up with a 510 model and also a vacuum system. The previous owner never used the drill or anything other than the saw a few times. It literally looks brand new and has all the items that come with a new one. I did find some sawdust etc so I cleaned everything I could with Mineral Spirits. I didn't even know Mineral Spirits was turpentine too. I might have been too enthusiastic with the MS and tomorrow I'll wax it. Sounds like I should also check all the other maintenance items, wonder if they'll touch on that at school? Thanks to all of you for your kind welcoming.
I ended up with a 510 model and also a vacuum system. The previous owner never used the drill or anything other than the saw a few times. It literally looks brand new and has all the items that come with a new one. I did find some sawdust etc so I cleaned everything I could with Mineral Spirits. I didn't even know Mineral Spirits was turpentine too. I might have been too enthusiastic with the MS and tomorrow I'll wax it. Sounds like I should also check all the other maintenance items, wonder if they'll touch on that at school? Thanks to all of you for your kind welcoming.
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putttn,
I've owned my 510 for ten or so years now, but I will be attending the classes for the first time in April. As I understand it, they do go through all the maintenance items and how to allign everything properly in the first class.
I've owned my 510 for ten or so years now, but I will be attending the classes for the first time in April. As I understand it, they do go through all the maintenance items and how to allign everything properly in the first class.
Tim
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Putttn and Scottss and other forum members,
The Shopsmith Traveling Academy is a bargain and wealth of information can be gained by attending one of Rick's classes. He uses the 520 for the demo, but also discusses the 510 model.
A recommendation is to write down some questions you may have before you attend the seminars. The lathe class fills up quickly and can close out as it has a limit.
Rick is the instructor who covers the West. I am the instructor who covers the East Coast. Regarding the tuition for the classes, you will find you will have received a bargain for all that can be gained by attending. Don't hesitate, sign up as soon as possible so you can make the necessary arrangements.
Have fun with the newly acquired Shopsmith as so many other have found.
The Shopsmith Traveling Academy is a bargain and wealth of information can be gained by attending one of Rick's classes. He uses the 520 for the demo, but also discusses the 510 model.
A recommendation is to write down some questions you may have before you attend the seminars. The lathe class fills up quickly and can close out as it has a limit.
Rick is the instructor who covers the West. I am the instructor who covers the East Coast. Regarding the tuition for the classes, you will find you will have received a bargain for all that can be gained by attending. Don't hesitate, sign up as soon as possible so you can make the necessary arrangements.
Have fun with the newly acquired Shopsmith as so many other have found.
Life is a chip at a time, 
Spike13
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Academy classes
Putttn and Scottss and other forum members,
The Shopsmith Traveling Academy is a bargain and wealth of information can be gained by attending one of Rick's classes. He uses the 520 for the demo, but also discusses the 510 model.
A recommendation is to write down some questions you may have before you attend the seminars. The lathe class fills up quickly and can close out as it has a limit.
Rick is the instructor who covers the West. I am the instructor who covers the East Coast. Regarding the tuition for the classes, you will find you will have received a bargain for all that can be gained by attending. Don't hesitate, sign up as soon as possible so you can make the necessary arrangements.
Have fun with the newly acquired Shopsmith as so many other have found.
The Shopsmith Traveling Academy is a bargain and wealth of information can be gained by attending one of Rick's classes. He uses the 520 for the demo, but also discusses the 510 model.
A recommendation is to write down some questions you may have before you attend the seminars. The lathe class fills up quickly and can close out as it has a limit.
Rick is the instructor who covers the West. I am the instructor who covers the East Coast. Regarding the tuition for the classes, you will find you will have received a bargain for all that can be gained by attending. Don't hesitate, sign up as soon as possible so you can make the necessary arrangements.
Have fun with the newly acquired Shopsmith as so many other have found.
Life is a chip at a time,
Spike13
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I've got so many questions I'd take up the entire session! Since I'm not very familar with the saw yet, all the terms are "greek" to me so everything is really slow learning because I continually have to go back to the owners manual to find the part # on the drawing to see where it is and what it looks like. Drawings aren't easy for me to figure out what the part actually looks like. I'm probably making this more difficult than it is but it's like being blind when it comes to terms and what they are referring to. I do suggest making a video to SS on putting it together and the adjustment/maintenance items. If I can understand the video, anyone could! Really looking forward to the school.
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puttn and others
Don't worry about the classes, go there to enjoy yourself and learn. Listen and ask questions, that's what this is all about. As you have already been told, go there with a list of questions that you hope to get answered and ask them whenever it seems like the right time.
Just don't wait until class is over and then kick yourself for not getting some of those burning questions answered. Take a lot of notes. You will not remember all that you are told.
Rick will tell you the same thing very early in the class. Rick is very, very good. He is a skilled craftsman (of several trades) but he is interested in your learning. Some people just like to impress you, this is not Rick. Rick is there to teach so that you can learn.
Very first thing, let him know you are interested in the class that was already booked full. He'll help if he can.
As for not knowing the terminology, and the names and whereabouts of parts on the Shopsmith - just listen. You'll soon find that you are not alone. Many will be learning just as you are. Many will have their own terminoi;ogy for things.
Wish I could join you.
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Don't worry about the classes, go there to enjoy yourself and learn. Listen and ask questions, that's what this is all about. As you have already been told, go there with a list of questions that you hope to get answered and ask them whenever it seems like the right time.
Just don't wait until class is over and then kick yourself for not getting some of those burning questions answered. Take a lot of notes. You will not remember all that you are told.
Rick will tell you the same thing very early in the class. Rick is very, very good. He is a skilled craftsman (of several trades) but he is interested in your learning. Some people just like to impress you, this is not Rick. Rick is there to teach so that you can learn.
Very first thing, let him know you are interested in the class that was already booked full. He'll help if he can.
As for not knowing the terminology, and the names and whereabouts of parts on the Shopsmith - just listen. You'll soon find that you are not alone. Many will be learning just as you are. Many will have their own terminoi;ogy for things.
Wish I could join you.
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Making Sawdust Safely
Putttn,
Something I learned a long time ago, and something that's been talked about forever: A picture's worth a thousand words. But if you have a situation where you need 20,000 words, one picture might not help.
Once upon a college career, 30 years ago, I had an education prof that gave us what I still consider to be the all-time roughest assignment I've ever had. Talk about GREEK! The assignment? "In English, without pictures, write a paper instructing a grade-school aged child on how to tie their shoes." GOOD GRIEF!! I'm really pretty good with words and creating ways to help folks understand what to do without benefit of pictures, but oh, honey, that was the capper! Heck, even WITH pictures, that one's no picnic. And then, to show that it's still tough, the next assignment was to actually instruct a classmate on how to tie that shoe with your hands in your pockets, words only. First while you were NOT watching and then again while you WERE watching. VERY HARD ASSIGNMENTS. Think about it!! Easy to show, not easy to talk through!!
Come along with a piece of machinery as complex and involved as the Shopsmith and you're darned right it's Greek! No need to apologize. And if you are not particularly mechanically inclined, it can get a little crazier.
The hard part is to talk a novice through it the first time. It's not color coded, so we can't say, "Open the back plate by doing this and that, now, get a light and look inside, up toward the top of the space for a dark blue thingey and a yellow thingey. There should be 1/2" between those two thingeys." Wouldn't be nice if it were that easy?
Putttn, trust us here, once you get some time with the machine, and a little confidence on what to do when, you're going to take to it like a kid to red Jell-O! Once you hear what's presented at the Travelling Academy, and once you start to understand the basic terms, your light will come on and you'll wonder why you were being obtuse. Most of us understand this so well because we were there once, some more recently than others!
You'll be fine. Until the TA, see if you can't find a fellow SS owner in your neighborhood, offer to provide the beverages and see if you can't get together with him or her.
Someone in the Spokane area willing to talk to our buddy Putttn??? Don't everyone speak up at once, now...
Something I learned a long time ago, and something that's been talked about forever: A picture's worth a thousand words. But if you have a situation where you need 20,000 words, one picture might not help.
Once upon a college career, 30 years ago, I had an education prof that gave us what I still consider to be the all-time roughest assignment I've ever had. Talk about GREEK! The assignment? "In English, without pictures, write a paper instructing a grade-school aged child on how to tie their shoes." GOOD GRIEF!! I'm really pretty good with words and creating ways to help folks understand what to do without benefit of pictures, but oh, honey, that was the capper! Heck, even WITH pictures, that one's no picnic. And then, to show that it's still tough, the next assignment was to actually instruct a classmate on how to tie that shoe with your hands in your pockets, words only. First while you were NOT watching and then again while you WERE watching. VERY HARD ASSIGNMENTS. Think about it!! Easy to show, not easy to talk through!!
Come along with a piece of machinery as complex and involved as the Shopsmith and you're darned right it's Greek! No need to apologize. And if you are not particularly mechanically inclined, it can get a little crazier.
The hard part is to talk a novice through it the first time. It's not color coded, so we can't say, "Open the back plate by doing this and that, now, get a light and look inside, up toward the top of the space for a dark blue thingey and a yellow thingey. There should be 1/2" between those two thingeys." Wouldn't be nice if it were that easy?
Putttn, trust us here, once you get some time with the machine, and a little confidence on what to do when, you're going to take to it like a kid to red Jell-O! Once you hear what's presented at the Travelling Academy, and once you start to understand the basic terms, your light will come on and you'll wonder why you were being obtuse. Most of us understand this so well because we were there once, some more recently than others!
You'll be fine. Until the TA, see if you can't find a fellow SS owner in your neighborhood, offer to provide the beverages and see if you can't get together with him or her.
Someone in the Spokane area willing to talk to our buddy Putttn??? Don't everyone speak up at once, now...
Dean Thomas
KCMO
520, jointer, bandsaw, stripsander
KCMO
520, jointer, bandsaw, stripsander