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[cooch366]

Unfortunately, no tailstock. Funny you posted this JPG, as I just got done blowing out the head stock and lubed a few drops of oil by the outer sheave. Next, I cleaned up the top 2 tubes and put a light coating of carnuba wax. Made a big difference in how everything slides. I used CLR and a green 3m scratch pad on the lower tubes. Then 60 grit, 120 and finished with 500. Once it looked and felt smooth, I waxed them.
I've downloaded the Mark V 500 manual. I believe I need to buy a tail stock piece, 2 piece tool rest, live center and cupped piece and a beginners set of chisels for turning. I know I want a 12" sander tool and a table saw attachment tool. I have some "stand alone" pieces that can get me by for now. Probably just going to read for a while and learn and watch for deals... Thanks again for the help!

I’ve got an extra tail stock (but no center) that you can have, just pay shipping, if you are interested. Send me a PM if so, and we can work out the details….

[MrDanB]

Hi Mr DanB...Welcome to the Forum

Along with the appropriate manual, you will also find that a book called "Power Tool Woodworking for Everyone" by R.J. DeCristoforo will be very useful in getting to know what your machine is capable of. There are a number of editions of the book, and they would all be helpful, but I believe the one that is age-appropriate for your 500 is this one:

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Used copies readily available online for well under $10.

Thanks for the tip! I ended up buying his book, rev 1984. Under 5 bucks shipped to the house! Can't beat that price...

[edma194]

Hi Mr DanB...Welcome to the Forum

Along with the appropriate manual, you will also find that a book called "Power Tool Woodworking for Everyone" by R.J. DeCristoforo will be very useful in getting to know what your machine is capable of. There are a number of editions of the book, and they would all be helpful, but I believe the one that is age-appropriate for your 500 is this one:

PTWFE.jpg

Used copies readily available online for well under $10.

Thanks for the tip! I ended up buying his book, rev 1984. Under 5 bucks shipped to the house! Can't beat that price...

Fourth Edition of PTWFE is available as a free download on the Shopsmith website: https://www.shopsmith.com/_files/ugd/d5 ... ed7ed7.pdf

[chapmanruss]

Dan,

You have gotten a lot of good information from the members. As I said we are happy to help.

You said in a post,

The only other items that came with it are a white plastic adapter and an Allen key. No books, other tools etc.

The white plastic adaptor if like the one shown below is the Power Coupler to drive, in your case, the Jointer. The picture also shows the lower and upper Hubs that attach to the upper and lower spindles on the Headstock. Note these Hubs need to be removed to remove the Belt Cover.

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In the same post you said,

As I'm looking online for parts, there seems to be a big difference between SS Co, Ebay and local sites. If I'm patient, I think I can find a deal locally.

Keep in mind that buying from Shopsmith you are buying new parts while eBay and other local sites they are used or pre-owned. Compare prices including shipping and condition before buying used. Since Shopsmith doesn't charge shipping for a lot of its parts any longer they can be less expensive than used parts from eBay. I have seen that in a lot of cases since Shopsmith dropped the shipping charge. There are cases where buying used is something I would not do. Some parts wear during normal use and you cannot tell from a picture how much life it may have left. For example, I don't buy Saw Blades or Sanding products used. It is hard to tell the condition of bearings from a picture. The Speed Control Assembly parts (quadrant and worm gear) wear and it is better to use new replacement parts. In some cases, used parts are the only option.

The picture below is many of the Arbors made for the Shopsmith tools over the years. The Saw Arbor for a Saw Blade that has the 1-1/4" arbor hole you will want 505511. There is more than one version of this arbor and 22 032 is an earlier one. Notice it is similar to 555130 but that one is longer and for the Mark V 510/505, 520, 520S, Mark 7 & 4. For using a Saw Blade with a 5/8" arbor hole use 555321. As before the longer Arbors that are similar like 555118 are for the other Mark models. The Molder/Dado AKA 5/8" Universal Arbor 505506 is another handy Arbor to have for multiple uses. Although not recommended for use with a Saw Blade any longer, the 505506 Arbor is the current version of the 5/8" Arbor that replaced 126-1x, 12 031 and 22 031 that was the Arbor supplied with the Model 10's and early Mark 5's to use a 5/8" arbor hole Saw Blade.

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The PFD below is a listing of Shopsmith Arbors, Spindles and Chucks by part numbers. It includes other related information.
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The Tailstock is adjustable to line up with the Quill's Spindle. The Collars, once set, will have it in alignment for future use. Once aligned simply lock in in the Bench End and the Tailstock is ready for use. The Adjustable Center allows for special turnings.

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[MrDanB]

You guys are always 1 step ahead of me on these posts.lol
I was just reading about the different sizes of arbors for mounting a blade. I thought you had to buy a separate tool to mount to the headstock somehow. You don't... you simply attach the arbor to the blade with a lock nut (that's reverse threaded) and attach to the quill? Then raise blade up through the slotted table and attach guarding. THAT would be why Mr.JPG sounded puzzled when I posted about buying a saw tool. I hope y'all are getting a kick out of me sounding silly.lol I've got so much to learn. Seems I have lots of things to buy before I can run the machine much. Before I even buy anything, I need to know what I don't know. Ya know?

[chapmanruss]

Unlike a regular Table Saw you lower the Table down over the Saw Blade to set the blade height on a Shopsmith. Don't worry, as you learn more about the Shopsmith you will pick up differences like that compared to other tools and the terminology.

[MrDanB]

Chapmanruss,
One thing I'm needing to know is what guarding do I need for
my table saw? I see there are multiple (and similar) configurations
for my machine vs the other mark versions. Do they cross over?
Mine looks to have a metal lower and plastic hinged upper.

[chapmanruss]

Dan,

Good question about Saw Guards. The Mark V 510/505. 520, 520S, Mark 7 and Mark 4 all use the same Saw Guard and it is different from the Saw Guard versions made for the Mark 5/ V 500 original Table System. They are not interchangeable. For the Mark 5/V 500 I will start with the most recent Saw Guard version since that is what I believe you have from your description. It is part number 505875 and it's first version is shown below.

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The first version of this Saw Guard had a single 1-1/4" Dust Chute. Not very efficient. An upgrade was made to provide two 2-1/2" Dust Chutes as seen on the following picture of the revised version.

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Below is the upgrade parts to convert the earlier version.

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The Upper Guard attached to the Table Post/Tie Bar which is the only Mark 5/V 500 Saw Guard that does that. All other Mark 5/V Saw Guards, including the one for the other Mark V models, have the Upper Guard attach directly to the Lower Guard. The one disadvantage of the 505875 Saw Guard Assembly is that the upper Guard attaches to the Table instead of the Lower Guard so it cannot be used for the extra Table Slot your Mark 5 has.

Going back to the next earlier Saw Guard is the all metal one, part numbers 505627 (upper) and 505628 (lower) shown below.

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It attaches only to the Quill. There was a different but very similar lower Saw Guard part number 505705 made for the 1960's Mark VII that uses the 505627 Upper Guard.

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That brings us to the first Mark 5 Saw Guard part number 22 370. The part number is much different from the others since it was made prior to 1964 when all part numbers changed to the six-digit numbers we more commonly see.

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At first, the Saw Guards were an optional accessory. These Guards listed above do not include the Saw Guards for the Mark 2 or the Model 10's.

Lastly there is another lower Guard (P/N 555167) for the Mark 5/V 500 which is a stripped-down version of the lower Saw Guard for the Mark V 510/505. 520, 520S, Mark 7 which is used for dust collection when using the 12" Sanding Disk.

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[MrDanB]

Wow! You're really knowledgeable with SS machines and parts!
Thanks for all that info. Now I know what to look for.

[MrDanB]

Shout out to Cooch366 for sending a tailstock and small parts.
One step closer to making sawdust! Thank you sir!