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mbcabinetmaker wrote:Dusty and JPG

You both hit the nail on the head as to why I prefer a lower longer storage solution. I have back problems now and I'm sure they will not get better with age. My plan is to keep a full set of SPT's and sell the extras. I occasionally have the need for setting up shop out on a job sight. These tools will come in very handy when that need arises.

My wife has laid claim to the new mini. She is getting into turning. I told her to go buy her own.

It didn't work!

Mark

I don't suppose she knows of another widder lady up in the mountains!:D

mbcabinetmaker wrote:Dusty and JPG

You both hit the nail on the head as to why I prefer a lower longer storage solution. I have back problems now and I'm sure they will not get better with age. My plan is to keep a full set of SPT's and sell the extras. I occasionally have the need for setting up shop out on a job sight. These tools will come in very handy when that need arises.

My wife has laid claim to the new mini. She is getting into turning. I told her to go buy her own.

It didn't work!

Mark

Good Move Actually. Let her have it. It is always there for you to use if needed and you now have a "negotiating position".

dusty wrote:If you are designing a bench like storage facility for tools, accessories and SPT give some extra thought to dust collector attachments and the jointer. The need for dust collector attachments sorta speaks for itself. The jointer presents a different problem - at least for us older and not totally fit older guys.

I would have been good if this thread was further developed. If it was maybe I could quit thinking about it and build it. I'm talking about storage for the dust collector accessories. They are all stored in a bucket right now. This is not what I consider good organization. I've been trying to find a better way. I had a rack built on the dust collector for awhile but that did not work. At least it did not work the way I had it for all the attachments I have.

mbcabinetmaker wrote:
My wife has laid claim to the new mini. She is getting into turning. I told her to go buy her own.

It didn't work!

Mark

Find a local turners club for her to join and learn.

There has been some great comments made here on storage but one I want to reinforce. Everyone especially you younger guys when you design storage make sure your storage loacation does not require drastic changed in height to store the SPT or to use it.

I know when I first got my SS I stored my Bandsaw on a shelf what was about chin level and required me to extend my arm with the bandsaw in my hands to full extension to reach over something. I stored my Jointer about 3 inches off the floor,so that required me to stoop down to get it, pick it up and mount it on the SS. That was great for past 30 years but about 2 or 3 years ago it wasn't all that great. I had begin to move stuff around in my shop to prevent all the lifting and stooping I was doing.

As you get older you find you don't want to lift quite as much as you once did. And stooping even with the back straight in perfect lifting fashion puts huge force on old knees. That last thing you want is to blow a knee joint and require a replacement. The storage of my SPT's is now as close the normal use height as possible. In fact I would like to design something where I could wheel my SS over to the SPT and sort of slide or swing it into position on the SS without having to carry it around too much.

So my advice is design your SPT storage with age in mind, cause I can assure you age does happen!!!

Ed in Tampa wrote:There has been some great comments made here on storage but one I want to reinforce. Everyone especially you younger guys when you design storage make sure your storage loacation does not require drastic changed in height to store the SPT or to use it.

I know when I first got my SS I stored my Bandsaw on a shelf what was about chin level and required me to extend my arm with the bandsaw in my hands to full extension to reach over something. I stored my Jointer about 3 inches off the floor,so that required me to stoop down to get it, pick it up and mount it on the SS. That was great for past 30 years but about 2 or 3 years ago it wasn't all that great. I had begin to move stuff around in my shop to prevent all the lifting and stooping I was doing.

As you get older you find you don't want to lift quite as much as you once did. And stooping even with the back straight in perfect lifting fashion puts huge force on old knees. That last thing you want is to blow a knee joint and require a replacement. The storage of my SPT's is now as close the normal use height as possible. In fact I would like to design something where I could wheel my SS over to the SPT and sort of slide or swing it into position on the SS without having to carry it around too much.

So my advice is design your SPT storage with age in mind, cause I can assure you age does happen!!!

I can really relate to these warnings. I am also very thankful that I am getting older so that I can experience them first hand.

Along with the back and knees go sight and hearing. SWMBO says that I need hearing corrections to go along with the others that I now have.

I have two reconstructed knees, a steel pin keeping the left femur together and eyes that see much better now after cataract surgery. If the VA would pay for hearing aids she'd have that done for me too.

Growing old is great but when you are out in your shop, please, do acknowledge that you are not as young as you once were and that some of those actions that you got away with when younger are now taboo.

dusty wrote:. . . If the VA would pay for hearing aids she'd have that done for me too.

Dusty,
I'm just going to guess that as a retired Air Force Senior Master Sergeant you really didn't go to the VA for your cataract surgery!! I'm betting you and SWMBO have and use Medicare and TFL because you earned it.

Dick

After reading these, I am a firm believer in "the right tool for the right job". I use the table hanging system for table storage and the accessory stand for the jointer, bandsaw and strip sander. Be leaving the caster up, mobility is not an issue. Storage is further enhanced with a modified accessory shelf on the storage station and plywood spanning the legs under it. It is at the right height to lift SPTs to and from the mark V. My scrool saw and floor model bandsaw both have their own wheeled bases, built out of angle iron, to aid in mobility.

BPR

dickg1 wrote:Dusty,
I'm just going to guess that as a retired Air Force Senior Master Sergeant you really didn't go to the VA for your cataract surgery!! I'm betting you and SWMBO have and use Medicare and TFL because you earned it.

Dick

You are absolutely correct in all of your conclusions. However, I would readily go to the VA for hearing aids though, if they would accept me. They won't because when I left the service my separation physical indicated I was in excellent health. I did not contest that because it was what I thought I wanted to hear.

Despite the fact that that I spent several years on a flight line and in a rather noisy missile silo it did not even occur to me that I might have a hearing problem. Besides, I had just been tested and was told all was normal.

Medicare and TFL have been everything they advertise to be. Except for medications, I have spent very little for medical costs.

SS offers a bracket kit that holds all the tubes and extension tables. All you need to provide is the wood that attaches to the studs.