Power Pro

gregf · Post by **gregf** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:15 pm

"Table size and tilting table and variable table position, yes a problem. I want an out feed table so badly but I don't want another thing I have to adjust everytime I make a slight depth of cut adjustment. I want a larger table but I don't want to have adjust an Aux table/floating table everytime I make a slight depth of cut adjustment. "

You know if there was one thing I would most like to see from Shopsmith would be an accessory that moved the aux & floating tables with the main table. (not a digital headstock).

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:16 pm

charlese wrote: . . .

Now do I add to those concerns - "Where do I store my old headstock?"

You have my sympathy regarding where to store it! I offer to store it for you!:D

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:24 pm

gregf wrote:"Table size and tilting table and variable table position, yes a problem. I want an out feed table so badly but I don't want another thing I have to adjust everytime I make a slight depth of cut adjustment. I want a larger table but I don't want to have adjust an Aux table/floating table everytime I make a slight depth of cut adjustment. "

You know if there was one thing I would most like to see from Shopsmith would be an accessory that moved the aux & floating tables with the main table. (not a digital headstock).

Some of you guys (Ed in Tampa) just like to complain about what you think you want but don't have (like an out feed table that adjusts with the main table).

I built my own just about the same time that Nick did the one for the Sawdust Session. In fact, Nick had promised one and I got tired of waiting so I did my own. If you need an out feed table so bad - go make one. Call it your wood working project of the week.

I've already posted everything you need to know about how I built mine. That info along with the modification data that Nick provided should result in a real nice out feed table.

gregf · Post by **gregf** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:17 pm

"an accessory that moved the aux & floating tables with the main table"

cincinnati · Post by **cincinnati** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:24 pm

"my little sub $100 Craftsman portable tablesaw is a better more usefull tablesaw than my Shopsmith."

WOW! you feel that strong about it?

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:48 pm

dusty wrote:Some of you guys (Ed in Tampa) just like to complain about what you think you want but don't have (like an out feed table that adjusts with the main table).

I built my own just about the same time that Nick did the one for the Sawdust Session. In fact, Nick had promised one and I got tired of waiting so I did my own. If you need an out feed table so bad - go make one. Call it your wood working project of the week.

I've already posted everything you need to know about how I built mine. That info along with the modification data that Nick provided should result in a real nice out feed table.

Dusty
Believe me if I thought your outfeed table would satisfy my desire for an out feed table I would build it in a heart beat. I also really like Earl Mortons infeed outfeed but again it only addresses some of the issues I have.

I wasn't complaining I was commenting. Fact is fact a fixed height table on a table saw makes it easy to have infeed, outfeed and aux tables. It makes life easier in the shop you can build multifunction tables that serve multiple purposes. Like table that serves as an infeed or outfeed for a saw as well as for a planer, sander, jointer and also becomes a worktable, router table and etc.

I think to say the changing table height on the Shopsmith isn't a problem is simply denial. Likewise a tilting table while still workable is not best solution hence tilting arbors were invented.

People talk about paying $2000 for the new power head and frankly I find that astonishing. However I would be willing to pay a fair amount for a tablesaw attachment that used a fixed height table and tilting arbor. I have often thought of mounting a bench top table saw on my SS using the SS powerhead to power it instead of a built in universal motor that comes on most bench tops.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:37 pm

Ed in Tampa wrote:Dusty
Believe me if I thought your outfeed table would satisfy my desire for an out feed table I would build it in a heart beat. I also really like Earl Mortons infeed outfeed but again it only addresses some of the issues I have.

I wasn't complaining I was commenting. Fact is fact a fixed height table on a table saw makes it easy to have infeed, outfeed and aux tables. It makes life easier in the shop you can build multifunction tables that serve multiple purposes. Like table that serves as an infeed or outfeed for a saw as well as for a planer, sander, jointer and also becomes a worktable, router table and etc.

I think to say the changing table height on the Shopsmith isn't a problem is simply denial. Likewise a tilting table while still workable is not best solution hence tilting arbors were invented.

People talk about paying $2000 for the new power head and frankly I find that astonishing. However I would be willing to pay a fair amount for a tablesaw attachment that used a fixed height table and tilting arbor. I have often thought of mounting a bench top table saw on my SS using the SS powerhead to power it instead of a built in universal motor that comes on most bench tops.

I don't have $2000 in my budget for a headstock either. But I also do not have $2000 in the budget for single function power tools. Fact of the matter, I'll not be spending $2000 for much of anything new in my shop. I will maintain it as I always have but that is about all. My Mark V has served me extremely well for many, many years. It will continue to fulfill my needs for as long as I am able to make saw dust.

When the weather cools, there will be some intensified sessions in my shop to make certain that all of the kids and grand kids know how to use and maintain what we have. That is the best I can do.

It will be a good way to get them to start their Christmas builds early.

shydragon · Post by **shydragon** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:20 pm

My issues with SS table saw, too high, not big enough, having to raise or lower the table, and for bevel cuts having to tilt the table. Other than that, I love the SS. But, I'm still leaning towards the new hybrids at less than half the cost of the supposed $2000 for the new headstock.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:49 am

shydragon wrote:My issues with SS table saw, too high, not big enough, having to raise or lower the table, and for bevel cuts having to tilt the table. Other than that, I love the SS. But, I'm still leaning towards the new hybrids at less than half the cost of the supposed $2000 for the new headstock.

It is certain that you can buy a hybrid for less than $2000. In fact, you will be able to get one from a manufacturer with a respectable name and if you treat it well it will serve you well for a long time--,six, eight maybe even ten years.

But then someday you are going to need to do serious maintenance......will there be customer service available on that model then???? Well, maybe that is not all that bad. You will probably be ready for the new upgraded version by then.

shydragon · Post by **shydragon** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:02 am

Dusty, for less then half the cost. It sits lower, do not have to mess with table heights, blade tilts. When I install a fence system such as the Incra or Jointech, I won't have to remove it every time I make some simple little change. As for how long it lasts, I have no idea, but I'm sure there are many out there, that have had their stand alones for many years.