Shopsmith Forums

I went through the same angst with my quill. I read tons of posts here, I watched several videos, I waxed & buffed till I was sore, but alas the thing still hung.

I too had that bright spot along the keyway, it did seem ever so slightly raised. So in desperation I took a piece of emery cloth & sanded it down, then waxed & buffed again.

It now works very smoothly!

I'm not sure what the previous owner did, but it works great now so I'm happy.

Steve

colday wrote:I went through the same angst with my quill. I read tons of posts here, I watched several videos, I waxed & buffed till I was sore, but alas the thing still hung.

I too had that bright spot along the keyway, it did seem ever so slightly raised. So in desperation I took a piece of emery cloth & sanded it down, then waxed & buffed again.

It now works very smoothly!

I'm not sure what the previous owner did, but it works great now so I'm happy.

Steve

I think that raised spot that you refer to is caused by the set screw being tightened down with the quill not being perfectly aligned. When this happens, the set screw rub on the ridge more than it should.

You might also check to make sure you have the correct set screw. A flat bottomed set screw is more likely to cause this than the proper one.

Thanks everybody for the welcomes and suggestions!

First off, I have pictures. (I tried to crop pictures and reduce picture sizes, so as not to bog down browsers. Hopefully I struck a good balance between detail and bandwidth)

The bright spot:


Based on suggestions from this forum, I bought a file and (gulp) filed down the lump on the quill. I smoothed up some of the worst scratches with 220 grit sandpaper. I rewaxed the quill, and this time also waxed inside the hole (trying not to leave a lot of residue to pick up sawdust). I checked the groove for burrs and found a little bit of a lump near the bright spot (on the side of the groove) so I filed that a little too. I held off on increasing the spring tension, wanting to see what difference these changes would make first.

This is what the quill looked like after I was done:


I do have a couple of questions. First off, in the above pictures you can see a rubber gasket around the quill. This started off being stuck to the headstock, but came loose the first time I tried to clean out the pinion with the big wire brush (I had to jam the brush in pretty hard to get the bristles through the hole, because it was a bit oversized, and when I pulled it out again the gasket came with it.) I put the gasket back between the headstock and the snap-ring on the quill but now it moves with the quill instead of staying with the headstock. Is this a problem, and if so, what should I do?

Second, there is a rubber ring (another gasket?) around one of the waytubes. I don't see any gaps it might fit into. Is it something I should worry about, and if so, what should I do about it?

The rubber ring:


And last off, my major claim to woodworking fame is that I build a canoe a few summers ago--a feat I hope to duplicate again soon. As I look through the Woodworking for Everyone book I realize that the woodworking required to build a canoe is really pretty basic, but it's my most impressive project to date, so here it is:

Me and my canoe in Quetico Provincial Park:


The quill extends and retracts much more smoothly now. It isn't quite perfect, but 97% of the problem is gone and I am much happier.

dlbristol--thanks for the welcome!

beeg--I did wax the quill, but not the hole: fixed that the second time around. I also got a smaller wire brush and cleaned out the pinion a second time. The aligning is planned (I just haven't got that far.) The cleaning and lubing--that's in the manual, right?

JPG40504--the video talked about the setscrew, getting it snug and then backing off 1/64th turn, so I tried to do just what it said. I did not find any marks in the groove or near the sides of it that looked like it had been chewed on by a not-quite-aligned setscrew: given that the OO used it only as a tablesaw (and thus never extended the quill as far as I can tell), and the setscrew was still sealed by lead, I may be the first person to have touched the setscrew since the SS left the factory. I did go cautiously with the filing; hopefully I did no more than was necessary.

mccabinetmaker--the other stuff I tried seems to have worked so I don't think the quill tension needs to be changed. But thanks for the suggestion

Mikelst -- I'm just going through the "set-up" portion of the manual in order, basically. I haven't gotten to anything about lubricating the sheaves or cleaning out the motor pan yet, or checking the speed control quadrant assembly. If the manual doesn't specify them as part of set-up, I will check into them when set-up is done. Does the manual say how to do these things or should I look on the website somewhere?

Rayjack-- I'm sorry, but I've got my current husband all set up, he fits the available space in my house perfectly, I am accustomed to his quirks and he's in good working order, so I'm going to keep him. But thanks for the offer; it's very kind of you.

JPG40504--actually, I do have a passport. What I don't have is a visa. What does ICYAW mean? And East Tennessee might be awfully hot for somebody from the UK.

Charlese--re tying odd shaped things to cars, this is mostly a side effect of my other hobbies, and so far I've only tied inanimate things. Unless insisting that passengers wear seat belts counts :-)

lv2wdwrk--is a g-mail account a google account?

dusty--the setscrew was sealed in place by lead, which I had to pick out with my pocket knife, so I'm pretty sure I have the original setscrew and not a flat bottomed substitute. But thanks for the suggestion.

If I have overlooked anybody, I apologize. I appreciate the suggestions and welcomes. I hope to get my shopsmith set up over the coming weekend, though any big work will have to wait until the new extension table base comes. But hey--I can work on small stuff: I'm not proud. :-)

Okay--I have another question.

How do you get pictures to work? I put my pictures up at my flickr account, and clicked on "Insert Picture" and gave the picture's url at flickr but apparently nothing happened.

Any suggestions about how to fix this?

In the meantime you can see the pictures at http://www.flickr.com/photos/catsittingstill/ as a stopgap.

catfaber wrote:
lv2wdwrk--is a g-mail account a google account?

:-)

I think so.

catfaber wrote:Thanks everybody for the welcomes and suggestions!

First off, I have pictures. (I tried to crop pictures and reduce picture sizes, so as not to bog down browsers. Hopefully I struck a good balance between detail and bandwidth)

The bright spot:


Based on suggestions from this forum, I bought a file and (gulp) filed down the lump on the quill. I smoothed up some of the worst scratches with 220 grit sandpaper. I rewaxed the quill, and this time also waxed inside the hole (trying not to leave a lot of residue to pick up sawdust). I checked the groove for burrs and found a little bit of a lump near the bright spot (on the side of the groove) so I filed that a little too. I held off on increasing the spring tension, wanting to see what difference these changes would make first.

This is what the quill looked like after I was done:


I do have a couple of questions. First off, in the above pictures you can see a rubber gasket around the quill. This started off being stuck to the headstock, but came loose the first time I tried to clean out the pinion with the big wire brush (I had to jam the brush in pretty hard to get the bristles through the hole, because it was a bit oversized, and when I pulled it out again the gasket came with it.) I put the gasket back between the headstock and the snap-ring on the quill but now it moves with the quill instead of staying with the headstock. Is this a problem, and if so, what should I do?

Second, there is a rubber ring (another gasket?) around one of the waytubes. I don't see any gaps it might fit into. Is it something I should worry about, and if so, what should I do about it?

The rubber ring:


And last off, my major claim to woodworking fame is that I build a canoe a few summers ago--a feat I hope to duplicate again soon. As I look through the Woodworking for Everyone book I realize that the woodworking required to build a canoe is really pretty basic, but it's my most impressive project to date, so here it is:

Me and my canoe in Quetico Provincial Park:


The quill extends and retracts much more smoothly now. It isn't quite perfect, but 97% of the problem is gone and I am much happier.

Hurrah! Glad to hear you are much happier!

FWIW No pix attached. The xxxwww.flikr.com . . .xxx needs to be a link. try to edit off the and MAYBE a direct link will work. If your editing does not cause xhttp:// . . to be displayed as a link(when reviewing) then add "[xurl]" "[/xurl]" around them'. (the [x]s are added to prevent the auto url etc. from doing its thing.

Should end up like this
http://www.flickr.com/photos/catsittingstill/3888209594

http://www.flickr.com/photos/catsittingstill/3888209138

http://www.flickr.com/photos/catsittingstill/3888209216

http://www.flickr.com/photos/catsittingstill/3887415929

And here is a link you may find interesting Notice reference to Q... in post 21.

http://www.shopsmith.net/forums/showthr ... ight=canoe

BTW your Mark V looks in fantastic condition

catfaber

Welcome to the forum, & Great looking canoe.

My comments re gaskets got lost in the mutiple shuffleling I was doing. The quill gasket is actually a bumper. Absorbs the shock of the quill returning against the headstock. The waytube gasket is a spacer as beeg has described.