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iclark wrote:most, if not all, of the Delta Unisaw is made in the USA. the Delta guy who did the demo at the local Woodcraft was carefule to point out that they had even gone back to using made-in-USA Marathon motors because their customers asked them to.

FWIW,
Ivan

Are we sure? They have business ties all over the globe.

Marathon Electric is part of the Regal Beloit family of companies. Regal Beloit Corporation is a leading manufacturer of electrical and mechanical motion control and power generation products serving markets throughout the world. Regal Beloit is headquartered in Beloit, Wisconsin, and has manufacturing, sales, and service facilities throughout North America and in Mexico, Europe and Asia.

dusty wrote:Are we sure?

well, I did say that my source was a Delta employee.
in other words, of course I am not sure.

I am sure of what he said.

he did identify himself as the guy who was responsible for overseeing the design and development of the new unisaw. my apologies for not remembering his name or title.

iclark wrote:well, I did say that my source was a Delta employee.
in other words, of course I am not sure.

I am sure of what he said.

he did identify himself as the guy who was responsible for overseeing the design and development of the new unisaw. my apologies for not remembering his name or title.

There are no apologies needed. All I was trying to communicate was that in this day and age manufacturing is so widely spread across the globe that one can not be certain of where anything was made. I live near a Mexican/USA border crossing. I used to work for a major US company, as a test engineer. I went to Nogales, Sonora three days every week to inspect and test US marketed product that was manufactured and tested in Nogales for delivery in the US. In the facility next door to us, they manufactured wiring harnesses for Ford Motor Co. My Ford F250 carries a window sticker that proudly reports made in the USA.

Was it? I'm not sure!

dusty wrote:Forums have a way of coming and going.

http://jointech.com/jointech_board/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=6ec5c36f5339ae66d2c07a128945c619

Are you aware that Teknatool is now available on Facebook?

not sure what that link is supposed to show me. I get the same banned greeting that I have been getting for over a year.

I got an email from itools customer service today that I mis-read as them having closed the forum. when I re-read it, I see that the customer service rep was reporting that he was now getting the banned greeting himself and that he had given up on fixing it himself.

I am aware that Teknatool is on facebook, but I have not opened an account to access it. the forum link on the Teknatool site still last week pointed at the MSN forums where MSN says that they have been closed since Oct 2008. their customer service did tell me about facebook when I asked.

dusty wrote:That can probably be said for a very, very large percentage of everything in the house. Much of what is purchased these days, even from name brand companies based in the USA, is made elsewhere. Like it or not, this is the wave of the future.

Dusty,

You and I may not see it but, US manufacturing will rise again. We will eventually have a currency situation that will make it cheaper to manufacture here.
Gene

Gene Howe wrote:Dusty,

You and I may not see it but, US manufacturing will rise again. We will eventually have a currency situation that will make it cheaper to manufacture here.
Gene

Gene, I have already booked seats. I plan to see it.

For this to happen, however, some one must agree to be the worker bee for worker bee wages while others "slowly" rise through the working ranks to the position of management. The entire work force can not be college level graduates drawing huge salaries and bonuses.

iclark wrote:not sure what that link is supposed to show me. I get the same banned greeting that I have been getting for over a year.

I got an email from itools customer service today that I mis-read as them having closed the forum. when I re-read it, I see that the customer service rep was reporting that he was now getting the banned greeting himself and that he had given up on fixing it himself.

I am aware that Teknatool is on facebook, but I have not opened an account to access it. the forum link on the Teknatool site still last week pointed at the MSN forums where MSN says that they have been closed since Oct 2008. their customer service did tell me about facebook when I asked.

The link Dusty gave just worked fine for me. I am using IE8.

I didnt want to get into a huge arguement about buying us vs foregin parts, be cause thats politics and your never going to change anyones view but buying stuff thats US made is kinda a crock. its easy to say "thats made in china, not the US so it must be cheap" or say "ill only buy american" but i can guarentee most people have thown down big bucks for a LCD tv thats made made in Japan, The suit made in Italy, or the beer from Mexico( hell even the "Domestic" beers are foreign owned). I think my Henkels Knives are better than anything made in the US. I dont think buying things from another country is wrong, i think buying the thing from the other side of the world having it put on a boat, going through 1000s of miles of ocean, arriving at a port in california, getting on a truck and then driving 2000 miles to my house and the item is STILL cheaper then buying it from the next state over.

boozeclues wrote: I think my Henkels Knives are better than anything made in the US.

FYI, some of the best knives I have ever used are made in the US - Cutco. They have some silverware and garden tools from other countries, but their core product (knives) are all made and manufactured here. I have had them for about 10 years, and the only ones that have needed sharpening are the two paring knives that I use all the time. The rest are all "scary sharp."

Not an ad, I don't work for Cutco - just telling people about another great company. Similar to Shopsmith, they are excellent quality - and come at a premium price. Compared to a Henckels, there are about 5% less - but, of course, a Henckels isn't cheap. When you compare it to a chinese-made knife you can get at Macys or Target, the Cutco costs about double.

Maybe that't one of the reason's Shopsmith prices seem so high. There are not really any other competitors at the "prosumer" level. Either you have junk tools for the casual hobbyist, or you have professional tools for the serious woodworker. There are not very many professional-grade tools for the hobbyist. So who knows what a high-quality 4" jointer or a 11" bandsaw would cost if it was made by Jet, Powermatic, or Delta? Nothing to compare to except junk, so of course it looks expensive.

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