Dallas Traveling Academy

rcartmetal · Post by **rcartmetal** » Thu May 24, 2007 7:49 pm

As we like to say in Oregon, "I don't care HOW they do it in California!!"
We can be a pig headed lot at times!

charlese · Post by **charlese** » Thu May 24, 2007 8:38 pm

That brings back fond memories, Spike! When in Montana, (44 years) there were many bumper stickers reading "Don't Californicate Montana". We - (all 900,000 of us) didn't care for Californians. They came in and paid outlandish prices for land and buildings. Holy cats! Now I are one!

paulmcohen · Post by **paulmcohen** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:40 am

When I moved here is 1990 the most expensive house in the state was under $500K and they gave you a 1/4 mountain with it. Because of all the Californians that moved here now you can spend a couple of million for a 1/3 acre in a great area. Prices are coming down a little now.

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Fri May 25, 2007 10:40 am

paulmcohen wrote:When I moved here is 1990 the most expensive house in the state was under $500K and they gave you a 1/4 mountain with it. Because of all the Californians that moved here now you can spend a couple of million for a 1/3 acre in a great area. Prices are coming down a little now.

Don't want to bust your California bubble but land/house prices have sky rocketed everywhere. Everybody thinks they are getting rich, until they buy a replacement house which eats all their profits and then some. But if they look over their shoulder they will see the realtor, banker, and tax man all smiling. I wonder who is getting rich?

Is the reason Shopsmiths sell better in California really due to the high cost of living or is it because many Californians have more expendable income due to high salaries paid by the many high tech companies located there?
Ed

paulmcohen · Post by **paulmcohen** » Sat May 26, 2007 12:02 am

Since I work for one of the high tech companies I would say the later.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Sat May 26, 2007 7:54 am

But I worked in the high tech industry also; in Arizona, California, Iowa and Texas and while in California I did not have my Shopsmith.

I owned it but it was at the house in Arizona. I bought it while working in Iowa.

Market analysis - I bet it would be a fun job. Collect tons of data and then create theory upon theory about what can be concluded.

charlese · Post by **charlese** » Sat May 26, 2007 10:39 am

dusty wrote:...Market analysis - I bet it would be a fun job. Collect tons of data and then create theory upon theory about what can be concluded.

You bet! It is fun! Many of us love it! As forums like this are excellent market analysis tools - we are all participating! (at least in the data collection) We even created some theories in another Thread.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Sat May 26, 2007 6:49 pm

For the purpose of market analysis, this forum is heavily biased.

Nearly all of us own or have owned a Shopsmith and nearly all of us are deeply dedicated to defending the virtues of our Shopsmith (or our personal decision to buy one).

All that can be concluded from that is that "those who own a Shopsmith claim to be pleased with its performance". Some of us are so pleased that we won't even read or listen to the opinions of others (as expressed on other forums).

charlese · Post by **charlese** » Sat May 26, 2007 7:10 pm

dusty wrote:For the purpose of market analysis, this forum is heavily biased.... Some of us are so pleased that we won't even read or listen to the opinions of others (as expressed on other forums).

Yes I agree, however re-read the thread about jointers and surface planers. and also about planer/jointer sharpening jig and the latest re; quills. There are some pretty valid opinions expressed.

paulmcohen · Post by **paulmcohen** » Sat May 26, 2007 9:22 pm

dusty wrote: Market analysis - I bet it would be a fun job. Collect tons of data and then create theory upon theory about what can be concluded.

That actually is part of my real job, and most of the time I can prove either side of the argument with the data. "Lies, dam lies and statistics". Sometimes we spend a few hours choosing the right word to ask a question in a survey.

We just completed a survey where we asked people the same questions (about products they knew well) where we knew the correct answers. They had as long as they wanted to research the answers and could ask for help. We then asked them to explain why they answered the way they did. It was very clear that people answered the questions shaped by a point they were trying to make. If they liked the product their answers were more positive. The interesting thing was the questions were not subjective every one was designed to have a correct answer.