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mickyd wrote:After Heath posted his 'how did this kickback happen' thread, I've decided to use a face shield when using the table saw. I want to keep my pearly whites forever. I've never seen or experience kickback......yet. I've just read about it and want to make sure my face is protected.

Sure ya don't want to wear FULL body armor?:D

Hand-tools... Not a bad word...
If you can't bring yourself to touch a hand-tool a lot of these cuts on tiny stuff should be cut using a jigsaw/scroll-saw or even a bandsaw.
If you need to cut a bunch of dowels consider making a version of something like this:
http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/2007/10/26/sn/
If you will use a hand-tool here is a jig to help:
http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip072100sn.html
For those unfamiliar the item labeled as "saw" in picture box #1 is a "hand-tool".

I've been "rediscovering" hand tools myself.
Maybe from watching Gibbs on NCIS building a boat using them.
For small pieces I find a hand saw is usually faster.
The fine toothed Japanese style saws make very smooth cuts.
The saw that Bridge City sells (pretty much the only thing they sell I can afford) cuts like butter.
http://www.bridgecitytools.com/Categories/Woodworking+Tools/Japanese+Saws/Saws/

JPG40504 wrote:Sure ya don't want to wear FULL body armor?:D

Nah....most of me is pretty tough. A pair of those meat butcher steel mesh gloves has been a serious consideration though. Wonder how well they would hold up to a table saw / dado / router cutter? (serious question).

I think I can be less safety minded with hand tools. When people ask what is required to learn to carve I tell them a sharp knife and a large box of band aids. I can not begin to count the minor cuts I have had over the years. As well as those to the bone that required trips to the ER. There are some (a very few) that could not have been avoided. How ever just as with power tool most of the time I was trying to take a short cut or I was using a tool to do a job that it was not made to do, when the right tool was hanging on the wall in front of me. Or trying to force something rather than stopping to see what else could be done. And how many of those times did I say to my self, this is not what you should be doing? But I did it any way. And after I have done something doom. I say God protected me from myself.

mickyd wrote:Nah....most of me is pretty tough. A pair of those meat butcher steel mesh gloves has been a serious consideration though. Wonder how well they would hold up to a table saw / dado / router cutter? (serious question).

please do not wear gloves on the table saw/dado/router. there is the possiblity for the fabric to catch in the blade and I would NOT want to know about the results of that. Wearing any kind of "safety gloves" near any kind of spinning parts is the worst idea ever.

For me, the issue is usually that I am in a hurry and I convince myself that I can do something " just once". Why 30 seconds to put in the miter extension was to much time makes no sense now. I have decided to spend some time looking at my procedures to find other things I might be doing wrong. I am going to review the safety warnings in PTWFE and maybe some other ones as well. I will be looking at some of the jigs and extensions suggested . I also know that being in a hurry, stressed or angry is never a good thing in the shop.
I can't answer JPG's question about why I did not have the cut off secured and moved away from the blade. I know better and thought about it and did it wrong anyway. That is a pretty good definition of stupid. As CV3 said very few of the things I do wrong are unavoidable, just need to take the time and effort to do them.

Maybe I will put up a sign or some "shop made" warning stickers, or a safety check list to remind me of the problem I have with these things. I could have them done by the time my belly is healed up, it is reminding me now!:o

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits".

We often can't be sure which mode we are operating in until after the fact.
If it worked it was genius. If it didn't...

robinson46176 wrote:"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits".

We often can't be sure which mode we are operating in until after the fact.
If it worked it was genius. If it didn't...

Boy, did you hit the nail on the head with that post!!!! I'm saving that quote.....maybe even posting it on my SS.

robinson46176 wrote:"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits".

We often can't be sure which mode we are operating in until after the fact.
If it worked it was genius. If it didn't...

My Granddad told me that;
"Genius is for most the result of a learning process. Stupidity requires no education. Just thoughtless effort."