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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:21 pm
by hfmann
So far so good. He had the screw. The washers are thinner, but two of them are perfect. Now I'm going to try to put a countersink in one of them to accomodate the screw head. We'll see what happens.
Total cost so far - 36 cents, including tax, not including gasoline for 6 miles round trip.
(Yes, I took the miter bar with me. Good thing too.)
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:38 pm
by hfmann
dusty wrote:Put Flats on the Sides? Why? Where do you find that this might be useful other than on the Belt Sander Table?
I'm guessing that's so you could use that in any track or slot that does't allow for the "wings" of the washer sticking out beyond the bar sides. Seems like a good idea even though I don't think I have anything right now where that is need.
Cheers.
Hal
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:19 pm
by dusty
That is my point, Hal. The only place that I am inclined to use the miter gauge that does not facilitate the washer is the table on the Belt Sander and it is only about 8" long.
It is a neat idea but (for me) has no utility since the miter gauge can not be used on any non-Shopsmith equipment because of bar width.
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:03 pm
by JPG
dusty wrote:That is my point, Hal. The only place that I am inclined to use the miter gauge that does not facilitate the washer is the table on the Belt Sander and it is only about 8" long.
It is a neat idea but (for me) has no utility since the miter gauge can not be used on any non-Shopsmith equipment because of bar width.
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Point well made Dusty! But some of us have old ancient versions of things like Mark 5 worktable, CI bandsaw tables and home made jigs that were created b4 the newer slots were created. As a result I have removed the washer from the gauge
until I get the 510 on line. Since the 510 table has no way to extend the infeed end of the slot, I predict I
will need it for wider crosscutting.
The double d shaped washer was a suggestion for anyone having to use a single miter gauge on both old and newer slots.

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:34 pm
by dusty
[quote="JPG40504"]Point well made Dusty! But some of us have old ancient versions of things like Mark 5 worktable, CI bandsaw tables and home made jigs that were created b4 the newer slots were created. As a result I have removed the washer from the gauge
until I get the 510 on line. Since the 510 table has no way to extend the infeed end of the slot, I predict I
will need it for wider crosscutting.
The double d shaped washer was a suggestion for anyone having to use a single miter gauge on both old and newer slots.]Excuse Me. I think I would take the washer off completely so that my miter gauge was interchangeable. What is a CI bandsaw?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:36 pm
by kd6vpe
Dusty,
I think it was Reible who had the idea of grinding the washer in question. I did it to use with my cast iron bandsaw table. I have found it to be a time saver and I don't have to worry about loosing the washer or screw in the shop. I also don't need it on the belt sander. FYI hope this explains the modification.
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:28 pm
by charlese
hfmann wrote:I knew the parts from SS were inexpensive, it's the dang shipping cost that makes me hope to find a local source.
Thanks guys.
Hal
To share my experiences - I have worn one of those washers down so much that the miter gauge shaft was tilting upward enough to make it uncomfortable for me. I don't know how the metal washer wore down from the top, while the inside of the aluminum table slot has not worn noticeably. Couldn't turn the washer upside down because of the countersunk hole.
Could not find an appropriate washer or screw locally, so included those items into a later parts order. That way shipping cost was negligible. The new washer and screw brought the gauge back to normal action.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:20 am
by JPG
dusty wrote:Excuse Me. I think I would take the washer off completely so that my miter gauge was interchangeable. What is a CI bandsaw?
Without the truncated washer, the tslot becomes non-functional. The intent is to allow switching over by loosening the screw and rotating it and thus keep the parts 'attached'.
CI = cast iron table.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:55 am
by BigSky
JPG40504 wrote:Without the truncated washer, the tslot becomes non-functional. The intent is to allow switching over by loosening the screw and rotating it and thus keep the parts 'attached'.
CI = cast iron table.
An indoctrination Please. What makes the t-slot feature so very valuable. Most tables saw that I have used don't have a t-slot either.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:47 am
by ryanbp01
It gives a space to tighten T-brackets on and also prevents the miter guage from falling/sliping out at an angle.
I'm going to put a plug in for the Shopsmith Help Kit. It has all the washers, set screws, etc. to replace those which come up missing or worn other goodies to life make your woodworking easier. It is well worth the money.
BPR