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spiderclimber
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big oil
You know, it would be one thing if the price of crude kept rising and gas prices along with it and those costs were passed to the consumer, but when you see that the big oil companies are having huge (45%) increases in profits while watching your gas pump prices jump 5 to 10 cents every few days, it is hard to not believe there is some correlation if not a concerted effort to bleed us dry. If the oil companies were showing profit levels equivalent to the past, it would be almost acceptable, but when they report increased profits far in excess of what any other company in America has been able to generate in these times, something needs to change. I don't have answers, just cars that don't get started unless I absolutely have to go somewhere to make more money to put more gas in the tank.
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Boise @ $3.75 this morning.
Good news everyone, the president called for a "task force" to look into this. Doesn't this mean the government is just going to throw some money at something else they'll do nothing about?:(
I just want the name of the guy who sits a big marble desk and says, "hum, today we're going to......$4.85"
Is it just me, or is anyone else losing faith in a 235 year old political system. Time for a remodel I'm thinkin. Down to the studs and siding and start over..
Good news everyone, the president called for a "task force" to look into this. Doesn't this mean the government is just going to throw some money at something else they'll do nothing about?:(
I just want the name of the guy who sits a big marble desk and says, "hum, today we're going to......$4.85"
Is it just me, or is anyone else losing faith in a 235 year old political system. Time for a remodel I'm thinkin. Down to the studs and siding and start over..
R Hart
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robinson46176
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It must not be high enough yet... 99% of the drivers are still driving like gas is $1 gallon...
We could easily cut fuel consumption by 20% "tomorrow" just by changing driving habits...
Any attempt to drive the 55 speed limit on I-465 (circle around Indy) will get you steam rollered by the crowd running 80 MPH.
Car after car still drives past my house pumping up and down on the accelerator pedal and you can hear their engines reving then coasting then reving again over and over again in an amazing display of incompetence.
I know of a family that buys their cancer sticks one pack at a time and get in the car and drive to the gas station to buy one pack at a time 4 or 5 times a day.
I know a number of healthy people that will circle WalMart's parking lot 6 or 8 times in an attempt to avoid walking an extra 100 feet.
I used to work with a guy that gets in his car at work and drives like a maniac to go 8 miles one way out in the country to eat lunch at home every day then race back to work.
We had a "working" mass transit system in place here many years ago but threw it all away back in the 1920's. That was the interurban electric trolly system. I blame Henry Ford for that one.
When I was a kid there were numerous passenger trains running on the busy RR line that crosses the tip of one corner of the farm. It ran from Chicago to Miami through numerous cities. My sister used to use it between here and Purdue U. in the late 1950's.
There were about 3 bus lines that served the area very cheaply back then. Not so long ago just out of curiosity I looked up the cost of a round trip from Indy to Pensacola FL on Greyhound. I could drive it or even fly it for much less... How do they stay in business?
Then we have all of those folks working out of town and daily passing people commuting the opposite direction as they both go to nearly identical jobs.
America needs to wake up far worse than it needs to drill...
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We could easily cut fuel consumption by 20% "tomorrow" just by changing driving habits...
Any attempt to drive the 55 speed limit on I-465 (circle around Indy) will get you steam rollered by the crowd running 80 MPH.
Car after car still drives past my house pumping up and down on the accelerator pedal and you can hear their engines reving then coasting then reving again over and over again in an amazing display of incompetence.
I know of a family that buys their cancer sticks one pack at a time and get in the car and drive to the gas station to buy one pack at a time 4 or 5 times a day.
I know a number of healthy people that will circle WalMart's parking lot 6 or 8 times in an attempt to avoid walking an extra 100 feet.
I used to work with a guy that gets in his car at work and drives like a maniac to go 8 miles one way out in the country to eat lunch at home every day then race back to work.
We had a "working" mass transit system in place here many years ago but threw it all away back in the 1920's. That was the interurban electric trolly system. I blame Henry Ford for that one.
When I was a kid there were numerous passenger trains running on the busy RR line that crosses the tip of one corner of the farm. It ran from Chicago to Miami through numerous cities. My sister used to use it between here and Purdue U. in the late 1950's.
There were about 3 bus lines that served the area very cheaply back then. Not so long ago just out of curiosity I looked up the cost of a round trip from Indy to Pensacola FL on Greyhound. I could drive it or even fly it for much less... How do they stay in business?
Then we have all of those folks working out of town and daily passing people commuting the opposite direction as they both go to nearly identical jobs.
America needs to wake up far worse than it needs to drill...
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Francis Robinson
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
Farmer, I think we've all met drivers whose driving habits could use some readjusting but I think most people drive responsibly. Like you and me, they stop for traffic lights, pull over for emergency vehicles, drive at reasonable speeds, yield to pedestrians and do all the other things that responsible drivers do. These folks don't deserve to have their pockets emptied because a certain group of politicians in Washington has an agenda that is contrary to their public statements.
Whether we like it or not, this country runs on fossil fuels and we're not changing that in the near future. So, we can drill for oil here at home, or we can buy oil on foreign markets. We can create jobs here and get gasoline at reasonable prices, or we can send our wealth overseas for jobs there, where there is no reluctance what-so-ever to drill for oil. None! Zero! Nada! It is only here that a politician can get away with making a statement that we'd like to be Brazil's best customer for oil, while at the same time preventing us from developing domestic energy resources. It makes no sense and this country will suffer because of it.
Whether we like it or not, this country runs on fossil fuels and we're not changing that in the near future. So, we can drill for oil here at home, or we can buy oil on foreign markets. We can create jobs here and get gasoline at reasonable prices, or we can send our wealth overseas for jobs there, where there is no reluctance what-so-ever to drill for oil. None! Zero! Nada! It is only here that a politician can get away with making a statement that we'd like to be Brazil's best customer for oil, while at the same time preventing us from developing domestic energy resources. It makes no sense and this country will suffer because of it.
Art in Western Pennsylvania
The price of gas has gotten high enough but we haven't gotten smart enough to do something about it.robinson46176 wrote:It must not be high enough yet... 99% of the drivers are still driving like gas is $1 gallon...
Quit driving so much, start drilling in Alaska and offshore (again) and work harder at developing alternative fuels. While it is true that another spill would be a catastrophe, continuing on the path that we are on will be even worse.
Another thought: Don't import all of the parts/materials used to develop those energy alternatives. Start up US businesses to do that work. I think we probably still have the skills required to build wind turbines and solar panels.
Go online and search for wind and solar products. Most of them are imported.
MarkFive510
I work in HVAC distribution and I'm watching factories hike prices to account for increases in fuel and copper-metal-alum. This is then passed onto the HVAC dealer and onto the consumer or the small business guy.
We pay more directly at the pump, then we pay more indirectly for goods and services essential to living in the US. Its a way bigger deal than just at the pump. And while we need to control our own lives and be conservative, some things we can't do anything about. Milk and eggs going up? Gotta still have groceries.
I hope this doesn't effect Hostess products:D
We pay more directly at the pump, then we pay more indirectly for goods and services essential to living in the US. Its a way bigger deal than just at the pump. And while we need to control our own lives and be conservative, some things we can't do anything about. Milk and eggs going up? Gotta still have groceries.
I hope this doesn't effect Hostess products:D
R Hart